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NEBESNY1322021-07-17 21:28:37
IT education
NEBESNY132, 2021-07-17 21:28:37

What good universities abroad (in Europe, not in the CIS) will be pulled not by a rich man or a genius, but by an ordinary person from a provincial city of Russia?

I graduated from 11 classes, I have a normal certificate without triples, I'm going to work in the field of IT, I'm not a genius, but I'm not a stupid poor man, I have money to study at an average Russian university, which is about 100-200 thousand rubles. in year. True, the prospects after such training in a provincial Russian university are so-so, I imagine a typical picture of modern higher education in an average provincial university: old teachers, outdated information, sometimes lack of equipment, if you are "lucky" also a bad attitude towards students (I entered after 9 th to a supposedly normal college at the university, in short, it looked like some kind of barracks with a dubious contingent, drug addicts and squats of the whole group as a "collective responsibility" for improper performance of physical education exercises.
That is why I am looking for a normal foreign university, after which I will have the necessary base to get a normal job and not pay 3 multi rubles / year for training for a super-genius specialist at MIT and similar expensive educational institutions that everyone has on hearing. 100-200 thousand / rub. per year I can pay the maximum purely for tuition (does not include payment for relocation and accommodation).

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Ivan Shumov, 2021-07-17
@inoise

useful knowledge at least

Not a single university intends to provide relevant knowledge for getting a job, with rare exceptions where this is really the only way: medicine, science, education
going to work in the IT field

Moreover, no university in the world will provide relevant knowledge. A university is supposed to provide a basis, not actual knowledge and skills, and IT is almost always a requirement to know the relevant technologies and approaches of recent years. Nobody cares that you know how databases work if you can't use certain products.
not hired

trying hard to get a job
university, after which I will have the necessary base to get a normal job

in the field of IT such zero, as I wrote above
100-200 thousand / rub. per year I can pay the maximum purely for tuition (does not include relocation and accommodation costs)

given the prices in Europe, you will have to pay so much for accommodation every month. Are you ready for this? And not all study visas allow you to work in the country

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mkone112, 2021-07-18
@mkone112

University is great (sometimes). But what's stopping you from just going to work at it - I don't know.

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Griboks, 2021-07-17
@Griboks

None. To get started, you need to raise money. Then you can go to some Poland, if this is Europe for you.
On the other hand, you can go to the same Italy and be homeless there (where it's warm) until you find a job, and in 10 years you can even afford a university. Just do not interfere with migrants from the southeast.

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nApoBo3, 2021-07-18
@nApoBo3

In some European countries, higher education is free, including for non-residents, all of Scandinavia, Germany, the Czech Republic, if I'm not mistaken, France, but language, perseverance and ability are needed.

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Vitaly, 2021-07-17
@vt4a2h

If you plan to leave immediately, then any technical university in Germany or the Czech Republic (any other preferably non-Eastern European country) will do. Just choose the one that is easiest to get into. But you will most likely be able to leave next year, and not this year, since you will either have to pass exams in English, or in the language spoken in the country (for example, Czech). Well, you need to prepare documents there, etc.
In Russia, you can consider some universities in Moscow (Moscow State University, Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, Higher School of Economics, etc.) and St. Petersburg (ITMO). Any specialty related to mathematics, automation or programming. There it is more than realistic to get a good fundamental base and form the right mindset. It is worth noting the possibility of internships and the presence on the market of large companies that need employees. Well, useful contacts and acquaintances. Then you can leave.
Just in case, let me remind you that this should not be done in the last year, and not immediately after graduation. And then later questions arise like "that I went to college for 3-5 years, then I graduated, but no one hires me. What should I do? I don't need a diploma, I don't need education ah-aaaaaa..." The answer is simple: look for internships and develop in parallel starting from the second, if not from the first year. Regardless of the university and country.

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