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Talyan2020-09-25 18:42:56
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Talyan, 2020-09-25 18:42:56

What distribution do you recommend?

Everything! On-to-e-lo!

I've always used pure Debian, but I'm sick of his weird policies.
I want to install mongodb - figs! Somewhere they quarreled there and now mongo has been cut out of the 10th debian repositories.

I'm fiddling with SIP telephony, I want to install Ekiga - damn it - it's not in turnips. In Ubuntu there is and in Debian - FIG. You put a deb package - oh, 100500 dependencies, each of which has 100500 dependencies, one of which will not be installed at all.

apt-get install -f suggests removing an uninstalled package, instead of reinstalling the missing ones. It's just a parade of the mind.

Recently put fuse to get on samba - ass! A thousand dependencies had to be pulled by hand. As a result, I mounted smb via smbclient.

This bullshit is already pretty boring. Let me have Debian running everywhere on my servers, but at home I'm already tired of doing some kind of garbage. I already wanted to write a script that, when installing a deb package using dpkg, looks at the dependencies and pulls them itself and does not compress my brains. But then he changed his mind, because an asshole called "This thing depends on that thing but it cannot be installed" will definitely come out.

Good people, tell me which of the distros is less conservative?

From preferences:
I use xfce, it is desirable that it was not netplan, but ifconfig, but netplan will go to the edge, I have already begun to get used to this canoe with spaces, as in python.

Preferably deb-based because yum etc. never used.

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Alexey Cheremisin, 2020-09-25
@flapflapjack

I have been using xubuntu for a long time, 5 years: at work (HP desktop), on a laptop (Asus Zenbook S), with my eldest son (Lenovo Ideapad). Just there XFCE in a set. True, having tried the i3, it remained on it - for a year now, the flight is normal. Yes, I had to tinker with the i3 config, but it was worth it!
In general, I recommend getting off this xfce brake towards a smart i3 :-D

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planc, 2020-09-25
@planc

docker

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Alexey Kharchenko, 2020-09-25
@AVX

I'm on Mageia (now version 7). A stable distribution, and quite conservative, but updates come at least once a month.
Ekiga was installed by default immediately after installing the system, but I didn’t use it, I don’t know how it is. mongodb just checked - there is a server, and a client, and php something there, and something else for freeswitch.
The system is not without problems, but all these are special cases specifically of my configuration and use cases (well, like, when the TV is turned off via hdmi, the sound in the tray with the wheel is adjusted anyway for hdmi, and not for internal analog audio - maybe I’m just somewhere misconfigured something, but I'm too lazy).

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Vitsliputsli, 2020-09-25
@Vitsliputsli

Arch, it has aur - user rap, which has almost anything.

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CityCat4, 2020-09-25
@CityCat4

Dependency hell is a problem for almost any distro, whether packaged or source-based, if it uses at least some means of automating installation (for package) or assembly (for source-based) distributions.
Here we take, for example, a gent (calculate - it doesn't matter, it's just a gent with an installer). It seemed to be much freer. No, the situation "this shit depends on that shit, and that shit is marked as unsafe and generally blocked" easily arises, and while you figure out how to build emerge so that it installs what it needs and doesn't show off, you'll get fucked.
I tried to get off the gents - I even asked questions here - but I didn’t - I don’t have time to master the new distribution.
Usually the problem "this shit wants that shit" is solved by keys for the installer that tell him to "put what it says and don't freak out", if they are of course there. And it seems to me that the problem here is precisely in the installer - that is, any deb-based system will behave in a similar way, because it will install through the same apt-get. But if you definitely want deb-based - look at related distributions

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Sanes, 2020-09-26
@Sanes

Install Fedora. Along the way, yum / dnf will master.

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Vladislav Lyskov, 2020-09-25
@Vlatqa

mint

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