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Maria2019-12-17 13:21:06
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Maria, 2019-12-17 13:21:06

What CMS is better to use for an online store in Russia?

It is planned to develop a large online store, so the question arose of choosing an engine. Which one do you recommend from the list:

  1. Netkat
  2. Bitrix
  3. opencart
  4. Wordpress
  5. self-written

thanks for answers

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prrrrrrr, 2019-12-17
@prrrrrrr

What CMS is better to use for an online store in Russia?

Russia or Poland or something else - it doesn't matter.
The best solution is self-written. If there is time and money. In general, I would choose opencart.
ps please do not consider wordpress as a store. see better cms where the shop comes out of the box

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Sanes, 2019-12-17
@Sanes

Bitrix and CS-Cart are as ready as possible.

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Yaroslav Alexandrov, 2019-12-17
@alexyarik

You've prioritized choices a little differently.
1) Commercial e-commerce systems - Netkat, Bitrix, etc.
2) Free e-commerce systems - Opencart, etc.
2.1 Free with the WordPress online store module
3) Own product - self-written
B. The second is the choice according to the percentage of compliance of e-commerce functionality out of the box with your technical specifications. The more modules you need out of the box in the system, the better.
C. The third is the assessment of the system itself (development of the community, sharpening under Russian legislative realities, assessment of product technical support, frequency and quality of updates, how it develops or withers
)you need to get out after reaching good rpm. No store was created immediately successful and ideal in advance. I know one store where a whole department of programmers is engaged in the support and development of a self-written control system. It is quite expensive, but the customer's turnover allows it.

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WebReklamist, 2019-12-17
@WebReklamist

If a serious store is planned - only development for the task, and not a ready-made solution. This is the only way to get just such an option that suits everything. Otherwise, you will kill a lot of time and money on finishing up what is very often unfinished in principle and spend even more on promoting what is done cool, beautiful and convenient, but terrible for SEO and does not advance.
I will analyze your options ...
1. Netkat - did not work, I do not know. If I don’t confuse anything, then everything is somehow very difficult with development. I didn’t see normal stores on it, but maybe I didn’t look there. :)
2. Bitrix - paid, expensive to develop / finish, in the end you get something that terribly slows down and does not advance well, especially in Google. I constantly see fancy sites on it, which just shamelessly slow down and are almost not promoted, but at the same time they cost a lot of money to the owner, who now wants SEO, but either they don’t undertake to promote his shop, or they want it too expensive. And then he starts telling everyone that ALL IT people are mediocrity and scammers. I usually don’t take such online stores for promotion, because it’s more expensive for myself, and it’s risky to guarantee the result.
3. Opencart - what's out of the box is free, but many modules, without which there is no way, are paid. Finishing will also be expensive, as a rule, for a very long time and not to the end. The final result will always require to finish something else, because. something that turned out to be disliked in some way and has problems with SEO (not always, but in 90% of cases). The biggest problem is a bunch of engine development branches, version inconsistencies and not the best community, of which there are several, but all of them that will not help much.
4. WordPress is just epic. By no means is this engine for the store! It's free for blogs and business websites, but not for shops. The Woocommerce module allows you to make a store type, that's exactly the "type". But there, in the end, a lot will turn out to be paid, the total cost of ownership will often be even steeper than in the case of Opencart, and the results for business will be much worse. This is just for playing the owner of a cool online store. All this works crookedly, constantly requires improvement / support / updating, and most programmers who undertake this will either not advance this miracle at all, or get terrible brakes even with caching plugins + a bunch of other problems.
I saw other engines, but the vast majority were either even worse than those described above, or these are unknown CMS that do not have "identification marks".
As a summary:
options 2, 3 and 4 are not an option, especially 4, it's better to immediately hit your forehead against the wall and not suffer. :)
My personal choice is only self-written CMS. Here you can do everything for the task, exactly the way you want.

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OlaIola, 2019-12-19
@OlaIola

The most difficult thing is to find a person or a studio that will do it with high quality, and not assemble a monster from ready-made parts for the cost of individual development. Therefore, the customer needs to know what the possibilities are and how the system as a whole functions.
From the point of view of the speed of work (not creation), a self-written system can turn out to be the fastest and easiest, but further work will multiply problems and errors, require refactoring and even rewriting everything anew. A developing online store constantly requires making some changes and increasing the functionality, integrations, services, so self-signing at some point begins to greatly limit the speed of development.
I started by selling Bitrix, wrote self-written posts, worked with MODx and UMI, and finally settled on WordPress.
I think the best option is WordPress + Woocommerce. You can also consider BigCommerce, they have a fundamentally different approach - storing products in their system with synchronization with WordPress and other marketplaces, but I haven’t worked with it myself yet, so I can’t compare them with each other.
As for the “crooked, slow” approach, etc. The “make a turnkey online store in 3 days” approach often ends in brakes - a paid fancy theme is taken, a bunch of plugins are attached to it, goods are imported and then all this tries to be cached, optimized in terms of size images and compression and delivered via CDN.
WordPress is not only free, but also fast enough and at the same time very functional, 35% of the Internet is on it. At the same time, a large number of developers from all over the world are involved in the finalization of WordPress, more than 600 in the latest version 5.3 (compatible with PHP 7.4 and still supports PHP 5.6). The installed system takes approximately 60MB.
When installing WooCommerce, of course, the speed is lower, but everything is quite fast. I have noticed that PageSpeed ​​is much worse where images are large, such as slides on the first screen, which cannot be delayed, compared to a product catalog, where images are small and can be delayed.
WordPress itself, WooCommerce, other plugins for WordPress, as well as high-quality themes (all themes and their updates in the official repository are checked and tested) have a rich API, which means that with the help of hooks - add_action and add_filter you can connect to almost any desired point and insert / change everything you need without changing the plugin itself or the theme (and even more so the engine), i.e. while maintaining the possibility of normal updates. Using the API also ensures that nothing breaks after the update. Naturally, there are deprecated functions and hooks and it is advisable not to use them, however, just because of the need to maintain backward compatibility, such functions are saved for a very long time.
You can write a child theme to a ready-made theme that modifies the parent theme, thus keeping the parent theme updated. In practice, after updating the theme, it is often necessary to make changes to the child, but simple and minimal.
If you take the issue of speed seriously, you need to write a theme for a specific project, but it makes no sense to write all the functionality of an online store. WooCommerce already has pre-made templates and the necessary functionality, so it will work even with a theme that does not claim to support WooCommerce, although it is technically a one-line declaration.
There are a lot of pluses for WordPress for long-term work, here are a few - an editor-friendly admin panel (after you figure it out a little, since there are a lot of opportunities), a built-in visual editor - The Block Editor (aka Gutenberg, a few more raw, since it is only 2 years, but now it allows you to make a beautiful layout without knowledge of html, actively developing and giving the developer additional opportunities to improve the convenience for editors due to the ability to create blocks for the project), a large number of ready-made solutions (here it is important to understand why it is needed and whether it is possible to solve the problem easier ), built-in search (also with the ability to make your own changes to the logic), mobile adaptation of images out of the box, almost unlimited possibilities for customization and functionality extension,as well as a front-end API - html or json (see WP AJAX and REST-API).

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Dmitry, 2019-12-17
@Dit81

Try it first, install it yourself and go through the functionality. If you are completely satisfied, then take it. Self-written roads are in development and there are a lot of errors in them, you constantly have to test such "crafts". As an option, do everything yourself and only on frameworks!

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dmitriy, 2019-12-17
@dmitriylanets

5. self-writing

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Yuri, 2019-12-17
@riky

I personally choose a self-written one, but this is provided that you do it at the proper level (i.e. you need a budget)
it’s like a hand-built car, you can make a super-exclusive premium car, or you can make a simple jalopy.
as opposed to a serial car - if you are an ordinary unpretentious user, without any special requests - then it will do.
if you have ambitions to become a leader in your niche, then the serial one is already poorly suited, customization is needed. ready-made tsms can also be turned into anything, but the fact is that the self-writing will be easier (cheaper) to customize.

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web-mechanic, 2019-12-18
@amfetamine

definitely not Bitrix and not WP

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tashimotor, 2019-12-19
@tashimotor

For 5 years, relatively large Internet stores have been operating on joomshopping. No problems. With the help of standard extension mechanisms, you can add all the customer's Wishlist yourself. Lots of stuff ready. All tasks from SEOs are also solved without problems.
In my opinion, a kind of symbiosis between a self-written solution and open source cms.

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