We need to get the "group_id" of the newly created community in VK like vk.com/catalog.php, any ideas?

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Getting the "user_id" of a newly registered user is easy via vk.com/catalog.php, is there something similar, but with communities? I do not want to consider the option "create a group and get the newest group_id from it". Is it possible to get the newest group_id without creating anything?