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xreset, 2016-01-12 22:44:24

Pricing, how to work with clients (freelance)?

Uv., spices and pros in the category of freelance, web design. and other specialties.
A question arose .. which in itself is both simple and not very ..
How do you set prices for your work?
Here is a conversation with the customer and, I think, it happened to everyone that not all aspects of the work are 100% clear.
Well, how to call the average and adequate price for the work?
It happened to me that the price seemed high to the customer and he left. Or vice versa, you understand that the project requires much more time than the initial estimate of the project.
Or the situation: You need to update the site. I suggested a new design. Having named the price to the client, he decided to choose the option of simply improving the site - for a different budget and from a different contractor (which I could do too).
How can you still agree with the client and come to the "general" at the stage of assessing the cost of the project?

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Peter, 2016-01-12
@petermzg

You will not constantly work for free, so calculate how much would be enough for a life, divide it by the approximate time how many hours of work you manage to get, that's the minimum for you.
There will be a lot of positive reviews, and in order to reduce the number of customers, you will start raising the price.
So that customers do not get lost, as in your case "I suggested doing a new design." Feel free to offer multiple options. They say the new design is X green, and improve Y.

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Justina Tenodzu, 2016-01-14
@Justina666

I also have problems with pricing, I will share my observations on my rake:
1. If the customer leaves for a lower price, it’s better to let him leave, the nerves will be safer. All my attempts to sdempit ended very badly. Firstly, the price bar has already been lowered, and the customer can still pile on projects if everything suits him, that is, over time, you either send him or work for food anyway. Secondly, it must be borne in mind that clients can also be hemorrhagic, and if a stopizzot of edits for a normal cost is perceived normally, then for free or for a penny they don’t cause enthusiasm, as a result, work “for fuck off”.
2. If not all the points are clear, you should try to drive according to the TK as much as possible. True, this doesn’t work with everyone, and there is a category of the population that either refuses in plain text, or fills in the style of “I want it sooooo beautiful, I want it very beautifully,” so you won’t get anything intelligible from them. Well, again, no one prevents the customer from completely changing this very TK when everything has already been done and, of course, not wanting to pay anything extra under the pretext "and I said this on the phone, but you probably didn't understand." In general, for me, the reluctance to specify and communicate in writing is already a wake-up call that it is better not to get involved (well, or indicate a obviously higher cost).
3. As for the client who chose to simply improve the site: you should try to understand the needs of the person and offer several options. Not everyone needs a beautiful artistic picture, usability is much more important, and you also need to give arguments why the modifications you proposed will make the site more convenient for visitors (in general, I have met a lot of designers who do some completely unnecessary and inconvenient for the sake of drawing by hand things).

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Alexey Lebedev, 2016-01-12
@swanrnd

I am like a customer. This is a very complex thing.
Usually the freelancer names the first price, sometimes I agree, sometimes I say my price, it can be 3 times lower. Sometimes freelancers agree, sometimes they don't.
The market is very saturated.
Now, for one vacancy, where the price is not very high, but the order is large, there are 19 applicants who already agree with the price and we are testing their level.
We do not like hourly work, everyone has a different work speed. We need a result, but how well the freelancer worked is not interesting. We don't run around with time trackers or make eye contact when we ask how our time was spent.
Although sometimes we look in, but for more important things)
You must offer the best conditions to the customer)
When you have five identical candidates to choose from, you choose by Ava or by literacy, or who answered faster.
Basically, I used to be a freelancer. But fortunately not for long.

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Oleg Karnaukhov, 2016-01-12
@BupycNet

It is better to pay by the hour, for example $20-30 per hour. (PS. Quite a normal price, because for 1-2 you can really make up a landing page, for example, it just comes out 3-4 thousand rubles)

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FoxInSox, 2016-01-12
@FoxInSox

State the average price.

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Serg Shot, 2016-01-12
@Serewwka

Usually those who need cheaper, not better, leave. Adequate customer usually agrees to the announced price

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xmoonlight, 2016-01-13
@xmoonlight

precosts.com

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Puma Thailand, 2016-01-13
@opium

offer a different price for a different set of services, starting from man hours, if there are more of them, then you should tell the customer about this so that the price change is transparent for him

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Konstantin Nagibovich, 2016-01-14
@nki

An article on the megamind on the topic.

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huhrmuhr, 2016-03-13
@huhrmuhr

The only rule for prices:
And from below, the price is squeezed by your cost of work: if electricity for a computer will cost you more than you earn, then it makes sense to go to movers.
This applies to everything. Not just freelancing.
If you want to cheat, somehow wind up the price by talking to the customer, then it's all the same: if you manage to increase demand, raise the price; if your language does not work for the customer, then lower the price.
Within the same order, you can’t just reduce and increase just like that - this shows your inadequacy, no one wants to work with such people.
Within one order, a fork is made, necessarily motivated :

  • We do something, it costs less, but there will be such and such restrictions.
  • We do without restrictions, better, it will cost more.

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