Payment for remote full-time work: advance payment or piecework?

Question

Freelance

Hi all. How do remote workers usually pay for full-time work?
If there was freelancing, then it would be easier there - the tasks are small, completed in 5-10 hours, received payment, or even an advance payment.
What about remote full-time work? The probability of plowing for a month and sucking a paw in case of a kid is unacceptable. It's one thing to have a real office - then you can contact the director and solve things peacefully. But what about remote? How is it generally accepted? Ask for an advance, or payment for tasks, weekly, something else?

Answer 1

I had experience working remotely. It's good if you know the director personally and you can meet, yes, that's a plus. But if the leader is in another city, then problems begin. They threw it once, they still owe about 42k. I’m not suffering much, but I still want money)) But it’s more like freelancing, although it’s full time, you really need to draw up a contract. No other way.

Answer 2

The contract is certainly good, but the reality is that you are unlikely to go to court, and if you do, you will lose a lot of time and money and it’s not a fact that it will be worth it. And if the customer is from another country, then the contract can generally be wiped off.
If you are going to work full-time, then at first you need to make sure that the customer is ready to pay on time. It is necessary to agree that the first time payment will be after each 1-2 weeks of work. And that payment will be made within a period of no more than 1 week. That is: they worked for 2 weeks, knocked out the clock, another 1 week is given to the customer for payment. If payment is not made after this period, all work is terminated. Those. you risk 3 weeks of work in this case.
But nowadays it is very expensive and difficult to find an intelligent programmer. If you are like that, then no one will throw you. It would be stupidly unprofitable.
After a couple of months of work, if the payment always arrives on time, then you can agree on a rarer payment, for example, once a month.
The idea of ​​the whole scheme is that you are willing to risk a couple of weeks of your time, this is much better than entering into a detailed contract, working for a month or two while waiting for breakfast, and then trying to sue.

Answer 3

1) Gentlemen trust each other.
2) If not, then increase the frequency of payments to weekly or once every two weeks.
3) If they do not trust at all, then they work through platforms such as props and pay them a percentage

Answer 4

A contract is also concluded at remote work, so everything is respected. What will be the contract - depends on the organization

Answer 5

Make a deal, what's the problem?
In my practice, by the way, frankly criminal kidkov has never happened. Although there were misunderstandings about the accounting of hours.
So usually there is a contract with fixing the amount, if we go beyond the budget> 30%, then only in agreement with the customer. Well, pay once every 2 weeks.

Answer 6

Laughed at many of the answers in this tip.
Yes, there is an answer that gentlemen trust - only he is truthful.
They offer to conclude an agreement that supposedly will save them. From what?
1) In the contract (works \ services) or you write down everything to the smallest detail, all technical specifications, all classes, how it is tested, as acceptance conditions, i.e. TK directly signs from cover to cover - this is not an hour or two, it is rare for anyone to get so confused, these are days or months just to make up all the details.
And then such an agreement will protect if it says to do X and you did Y < X, it will protect the customer from the fact that he may not pay. because you have done less. Or protect you if you did X and agreed to X.
2) In the contract (works \ services) - If there are no details of the TOR, if the project has noodles \ support \ startup, there will be a lot of nuances that inflate the terms by 1.5 - 3 times constantly (proofs based on 14 years of programming experience and 8 years of commercial based remotely), plus from other people - google how many problems people have "to draw up an agreement that will protect the freelancer". They simply won’t pay you because the customer will find the reason:
a) if you have a TOR, but besides it you had to refactor, test, maintain something else, fix bugs, which you didn’t count on initially - the customer will not pay for this not written in the TOR
b) if the TK is very abstract, then it may not pay for anything, and writing specifics is expensive for all parties in time, including research
c) the one who draws up the TOR - they will not be paid because there are no criteria for a "correctly drawn up TOR"
d) if you write the clock to the customer and the contract says "the freelancer writes the clock, and the customer pays for it" - the customer may not pay, motivated by what you did not what he wanted during these hours, and you prove to the court (if you want to sue?) that you did exactly that, invite experts,
therefore, either everything is very simply formalized with TK - make a contract
or it will not help you, and this is often so
you will not sue, because you will not prove that your rights have been violated
3) Either you have an employment contract - customers will refuse it, and even if so - how will you prove the watch?
a) many customers will not write in the contract that they pay for everything you tell them, but they will write the wording (there was a case) "only the hours accepted by the customer are paid" i.e. he may want to and not accept, and not just what you tell him reported.
b) many do not agree to pay a fix, they say you may not work for the whole month and why do you need a fix (conditional 2k bucks per month), so see point (a)
so the conclusion is - you want to make sure - find out everything about the company - name, personality who cooperates there, and in case of a kid, write angry reviews with specifics (and not about a noname), and also ask for more frequent payment, but they can still throw it - if they want
as well as the customer is not insured that the freelancer / remote worker will not disappear, or that he will not write hours (which he pays for) 2-3-4 times more than it took him time, i.e. a freelancer can also cheat and cheat
, and this is even about the Russian Federation (as they wrote above - for international ones - your contract does not protect anyone, neither you nor them, only the reputation of the company)

Answer 7

Very detailed and with examples about the contract for a freelancer: https://journal.tinkoff.ru/freelance-contract/