Mac+OS X vs PC+Linux?

Question

linux

I've been using various flavors of Linux for quite some time now. At the moment, I have Arch Linux on my laptop, and Mandriva on the second one.
I don't have any Apple devices. Both phones in my family are on Android, in addition I have a Nokia N900 linux tablet and an android Branes And Noble Nook reader.
And so I thought about buying a desktop computer.
Everyone around is now pissing with boiling water from poppies. And I thought about whether to look towards the iMac. The idea of ​​a monoblock with a friendly Unix-like OS on board, in principle, attracts me. But there are big doubts: is the Mac really that good for a Linux user?
Beside me, another person will work on the computer, far from technology, who, in addition to the standard set (browser + office), would also like to edit graphics (photoshop \ gimp). From my computer, I need to program in Ruby, preferably with the help of VIM, and use mathematical scientific packages (gap, sage, etc.).
Actually questions:

• Are there any Linuxoids that have migrated to the poppy?
  
• Are you satisfied with Mac compared to Linux?
  
• What exactly do you like?
  
• What are you missing?
  
• Is it convenient to have only an iMac and use phones / readers from other companies, is the Mac ecosystem feature disappearing?
  
• I want a large, high-quality and, apparently, expensive monitor. Are Apple monitors that good?
  

Answer 1

I love my cozy Debian, I will never leave it.
I respect Apple for its invaluable contribution to development. Steve is a man who comes up with great ideas.
I see the point in using Macs only if the rest of Apple's products, so that there is a single environment in which it is comfortable to work, but still not for me.
If you have heretical thoughts, then go to the poppies. Linux is not for you.

Answer 2

I migrated from mac to linux. Which is what I wish for everyone.
The Mac will annoy the Linuxoid, it's worth a little digging.
There are various poultices, but apart from a good UI, there is nothing more to remember.

Answer 3

1) Yes
2) Yes, really now I'm trying to start arch on an old poppy mini.
3) UI, ecosystem, everything else.
4) In the case of a desktop for work - nothing but a normal DisplayPort -> DVI / HDMI adapter and an old power cable, the new one is just awful.
5) Disappears, but still better than in Linux'e and Windows.
6) Yes

Answer 4

Everything is fine, a little relearning does not count (unusual buttons, a new scroll in the lion, etc). There is a normal console, several options for package management, all sorts of svn and ruby ​​out of the box (although not always the latest).
Used ubuntu as my main working system for two or three years. Bought MBP and very happy.
The most serious of what will cause discomfort is the constant itching to file and customize something. But this is not a problem of OSX, but rather a user with a Linux background. In a couple of months it will become clear what can and should be done for yourself, and what is already well thought out and you just need to put up with it and get used to it.
One more thing - for almost everything, even elementary desktop programs, they want money. The de facto standard TextMate notepad costs 40 euros. However, you can often find either a free (sometimes for the beta period) or true OSS (for example, switch to MacVim instead of a textmate) replacement.
Well, about the ecosystem - it seems to me that the problem is not so much in compatibility, but in perfectionism and the desire to get a uniform user experience when using different devices. This keeps a tighter grip on incompatible protocols and formats.

Answer 5

I'm addicted to firmware 13, as well as OSX in general. I have long since moved away from the days when I compiled the kernel and patched kde in gentoo several times a day, I just want to sit down and work.
But at the same time, I did not want to lose the convenience of a Unix-like system, with a repository, a full-fledged console, etc.
All my working and not only fantasies were embodied in OSX + Homebrew + TextMate or PyCharm (or RubyMine) to taste, and an ideal environment for a python (or Ruby) developer is ready.
The only negative is that you can become a fanatic and at night you will dream of another coveted device from Apple))

Answer 6

We moved to an iMac with OpenSuse for one of the web developers - he doesn’t want to go back, no matter how we persuade him.
The quality of the iMac screen is beyond praise.
From what I saw on his screen - eclipce, mc, vim and many, many open consoles.

Answer 7

I for the second variant, with which.
In general, after reading the question, I remembered a quote from bash (not verbatim):
What questions are asked by users who have just bought Apple products:
1. What keys to press so that all sorts of cool things begin to happen
2. What keys need to be pressed so that cool things stop take place

Answer 8

1. Yes, there are many of them, but often there is not enough money for Macs.
2. Very, the system is unrealistically convenient. Even version 10.1 I really like
3. System sophistication, fault tolerance, more reliable (compare with ubuntu)
4. Everything is fine
5. This is already too much. What difference does it make what firms.
6. OK
7. To me, Apple is luxurious and attractive because it has very cool monitors. Especially in the iMac, this is an unrealistically clear picture.
Personally, I advise you to buy an iMac. Buy an iMac!

Answer 9

1) No. I migrated from Windows to Mac, and now I'm going to switch to Mac.
2) Not anymore. I have mb pro 15 2009. At that moment when I bought everything worked perfectly, nothing slowed down, it worked perfectly. With the transition to 10.6 and further updates, problems began, for example, with each update, incl. and 10.7 the increasingly slow work of programs and the entire OS as a whole, although something new and resource-intensive has not appeared. By the way, this trend is also observed with iPhones, for example, many remain on 4.2. in later versions of the firmware, the battery works less, like mine with an iPhone 4 and the OS is again slower.
3) I agree that UI, Ecosystem, many pluses of linux / unix platforms, incl. the absence of viruses with proper use is what attracts us to apple.
But I repeat, if you have enough funds to buy an aimag and upgrade it further, let's say in 2-3 years, then this is the best that they can offer you now.
4) There is not enough stability in terms of performance that is in Linux. Those. no need to constantly update the hardware.
5) There are no phones and readers. But with other equipment may be.
6) Yes, but if you buy, then in the future there will be a need to purchase some other apple product.

Answer 10

I still use linux for work, or keep a linux machine handy. It is not always convenient with virtual machines (I actively use the same name) In general, as a result, two machines :)

Answer 11

1) Yes
2) Very satisfied.
3) I like the fact that there is all the software I need and I don’t have to jump from system to system. In particular, this is music. software such as Ableton and Photoshop, although I also ran Photoshop under Ubuntu, but it does not work there as well as we would like. And of course, small amenities and prettiness, especially with the release of Mac OS X Lion.
4) Not enough ie of all versions, but I will solve it through a virtual machine.
I don’t know what to answer to the rest, since there are no readers, no monitor from Apple.
PS I use Macbook Pro 13"

Answer 12

I use MacVim under Mac mini, sat down under MacOS X, simply because it is convenient.
Although, probably, Linux would have arranged it too.
The only thing I don't like is that you have to buy non-standard laces.
Everything else is fine.

Answer 13

For 7 years I sat on Linux - Ubuntu, OpenSuse, until I ran into the problem of converting NEF files (Nikon digital negative format) to JPG, Linux has many different converters that allow you to quickly convert a large group of files at a time. But one of them could not come close to Nikon's native ViewNx2 converter, no matter how I played with the settings, no one could come close to the quality obtained in the native windows converter. The converter is made for Windows and poppy, I had to crawl to poppy.
As a former Linux user, not very happy with the transition, too many awkward moments, the whole story of my ordeals can be read here gegsite.com/index.php/111-khakintosh