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Oleg2011-09-03 19:44:52
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Oleg, 2011-09-03 19:44:52

Licensed software in the organization

Hi all. The question is. I work as a system administrator. There are organizations that I serve. When it comes to installing software, I have this question. If an organization for some reason refuses to buy licensed software, can I somehow protect myself? Those. maybe I can take some kind of letter stating that they are not going to use the licensed one and they take care of all issues related to legality? Thanks in advance for your replies.

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VenomBlood, 2011-09-03
@VenomBlood

There was already a discussion - all the papers will be used against you, because. they will prove that you were initially aware that you were breaking the law - and you did it consciously. So all such "agreements" will only confirm the guilt and aggravate the situation.
If you are forced to install illegal software, you must refuse, if you try to fire you, contact the police with a complaint that the employer asked you to break the law and fired you for refusing. In this case, the prosecutor's office will deal with it.
There is no point in cherishing a company that puts you on trial with its unwillingness to pay.
You can really try to explicitly state in the contract that you are engaged only in maintenance, and explicitly state that you are not authorized to install software. Well, of course - follow the contract and do not install software. Then, in theory, it should be more difficult to hold you accountable, the employer will need to prove that you installed the software. True, here it turns out such a situation that you knew about the crime, discussed that it would not be you who would commit it - and did not say anything to the police, I don’t know how the law interprets this.

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Alexander, 2011-09-04
@Alexx_ps

It will not be possible to indemnify yourself with any contracts / letters / receipts. If you installed and you were caught by the hand - you are to blame, period. Give them trial versions.
In the contract, emphasize that you install only licensed software, and after each visit to the client, draw up an act with a list of work performed, the client must immediately sign it. Then, if the installation of pirated Windows does not appear in the act and the client signed up for this, he will no longer be able to say that you installed Windows. If you are installing licensed software, indicate the license number in the act, if it is a trial one, write so.

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MiXei4, 2011-09-03
@MiXei4

I'm going to steal some money, but not for myself, but for the customer. He will only pay me a part in the form of salary.
From the outside it looks like this.

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Juggler, 2011-09-03
@Juggler

If these companies are not your only and last income, I would recommend stopping their service. In case of any gestures on the part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to check licenses, you will turn out to be extreme, and any such letter will only add "malicious intent" and "as part of a criminal group."

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Vyacheslav Yepikov, 2011-09-03
@Ejina

In such cases, this is what I do. If there is no money for licensed software, then this is the problem of the organization, not the employee. I never install Windows and office if there are no faces. distributions. So I had to “divorce” one organization for 115,000 rubles. Of these, iron - 34000r.

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a3x, 2011-09-05
@a3x

As it was written in this topic , say directly and immediately that you will not work with non-licensed software. And further in the text.

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Kindman, 2011-09-05
@Kindman

If you do not take into account the “problem” with the office, then now it has become much easier with Windows:
Starting with xp sp3 , as well as with 7 sp1 , there was a “technical” opportunity to set the axis without entering “left” and “illuminated” serial numbers, such as " J3QQ4 ", but simply skip entering codes during the installation phase. At the same time, it will be possible to use it quite calmly for a whole month (with constant reminders of how many days you can continue to pull with activation).
What to do in a month? This is already decided by the organization where the Windows were installed.
It will be more difficult to hold the “OEM-assembler” who did not enter the key during installation (with a correctly drawn up contract) liable (unless, of course, the installer did not “quack” Windows and did not enter other people's keys).
By the way, server 2008 is installed without problems in the same way . Only, there a freebie stretches for half a year !
It is for this reason that for some time (before the advent of the ultimatern 7), the screw server was the main “working” operating system on my computer.

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Sergey, 2011-09-05
@TsarS

And if the one who installed it is not a system administrator by position? Is the CEO responsible?

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Vladimir Chernyshev, 2011-09-05
@VolCh

First of all, don't install anything other than open source (even freeware) from your own media, or better yet, nothing at all. Secondly, never install cracks, do not run keygens and do not enter “googled” serial numbers, demand from the customer / employer media with a distro, serial numbers / keys (if required) and an official letter (on letterhead with a live signature or an arbitrary form with living signature and wet seal), in which he guarantees that all license agreements necessary for installation have already been concluded. It is not the job of a technical specialist, even if he is a full-time employee, to conclude agreements (including licensing agreements of accession) on behalf of the company with third parties. In extreme cases, an order should be issued to give him such a right. You, as I understand it, are not in the state.

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Aidos, 2011-09-03
@Aidos

As an option, the contracts stipulate only maintenance at the iron level. But I don’t know what will happen if they point the finger at you.

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make_luv, 2011-09-09
@make_luv

Any letter and contract for the installation of warez will only aggravate the guilt, because "By prior agreement."

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