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CityCat42016-07-22 11:25:50
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CityCat4, 2016-07-22 11:25:50

Is there life after centos or just gentoo?

Continuation of the question about changing the distribution, which seems to have been removed by the moderators. So Debian. Intuition (which is never wrong with me) for some reason suggested that relations with debian would not work out. And she was not wrong. Wheezy, latest version, 7.11. Why wheezy and not jessie - I already wrote about this. I don't like systemd (it's not worth flaming about it, maybe that's why the question was chucked).
At first, everything was fine - well, there were some minor roughness in the installer, but this is garbage. The test on the virtual machine passed, some points were clarified, one bug was unresolved - when you start gnome-terminal, firstly, it is black, and secondly, it folds into a narrow strip, but I attributed this to the imperfection of video drivers and installed bare-metal. And everything seemed to be fine too - until I launched the graphics and installed wine.
OMG, Vine version 1.4???
OMG, xorg version 1.12???
"Doc, start the car, I want to go home" ...
Yes, there are so many jambs in the centos that they stand in line to happen :) But there is wine 1.8 and xorg 1.17 from the standard rep. Yes, I could download raw materials and reassemble the package myself - but was the Bolsheviks fighting for this? Batch distribution means that I get by with packages. Yes, wheezy was released in 2013 and apparently this means that there will be no official support and package updates for it. Sadness.
The question is actually what - maybe I don’t understand something, I’m doing it wrong, I’m looking in the wrong place? Maybe there are some unofficial turnips with packages for wheezy, where is more or less modern software? Or should I unambiguously install Genta with such quirks?
Yes, please, you don’t need a flame that I’m an eccentric, that systemd is our everything and I need to put up with it - I can do what they came up with for you on Windows - it’s much more convenient there, I don’t need another system that imposes its opinion on me what is right and what is wrong.

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silverjoe, 2016-07-22
@silverjoe

If you need the latest versions look at Ubuntu or Fedora

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Melkij, 2016-07-22
@melkij

Debian is not about the latest versions. There are now official backports: repositories, but even those are lagging behind (or simply no one has ported the package) https://backports.debian.org/ Newer versions come here, wine 1.8.2 is quite available in jessie.
Stable debian means version freeze. Those. installed and with a decent probability the next update will not bring a headache. Favorite DE will remain the same favorite DE, and don't understand what, etc.

[email protected]:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Debian
Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie)
Release:	8.5
Codename:	jessie
[email protected]:~$ dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii  libsystemd0:amd64                     215-17+deb8u4                        amd64        systemd utility library
ii  libsystemd0:i386                      215-17+deb8u4                        i386         systemd utility library
[email protected]:~$

Well, in wheezy, too, any uncut libpulse0 dangled. How I got this:
I had to take a couple of packages from the debian fork repository - devuan
And a bit /etc/apt/preferences.d/ so that only what is needed is set and what is not needed is not set
Package: systemd systemd:amd64 systemd:i386
Pin: origin
Pin-Priority: -1

Package: *
Pin: origin packages.devuan.org
Pin-Priority: 50

Package: libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 policykit-1
Pin: origin packages.devuan.org
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: udisks2 libudisks2-0 cgmanager libcgmanager0
Pin: origin packages.devuan.org
Pin-Priority: 700

In theory, this will also work on the test version of debian - there are already fresher packages. But perhaps there the pottering is nailed even more thoroughly.
And one more thing, you are talking about gnome-terminal. So you are using gnome3? As far as I know, the current versions are already nailed to pottering tightly and even source-based distributors will not save.
If fresh desktop versions are needed, then I would try arch.

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MrSotariz, 2016-07-22
@MrSotariz

But I'm very interested - but what do you need the system for? If this is not a server, then look towards debian like ones, personally my choice fell on LinuxMint. But in the servers "it's a matter of taste"

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