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ZimMocI2020-12-16 23:23:19
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ZimMocI, 2020-12-16 23:23:19

Is learning Java at 30 realistic?

Hello everyone, I started to study java on my own at home, from books and YouTube, but something got stuck in place, I don’t understand where to go. It was not possible to find good courses in Moscow, a tutor too, tell me where to find a person who will help to learn java, maybe there are some closed congresses of programmers, or something for beginners, where you can meet and recharge with new forces. About me: 6 years of work in a construction company, after three years of maternity leave; and now on maternity leave, I decided that it was time for my dream to come true and become a programmer, I had not studied anything before, and now I really want to learn this language and retrain. What do you say to that? Maybe it's just a dream, and it's not worth even trying? Or maybe you should not be afraid that younger employers will come first?

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Yuriy Vorobyov, 2020-12-16
@YuriyVorobyov1333

No one will give you an answer to this question, except for you, of course)
In general, you should not be afraid and develop, study who is in the way. It’s not an option that there are good face-to-face courses, it’s better to look at Udemy or somewhere else, after checking the reviews, plus if you get discounts, it will be very successful, consider that for the price of a book, look how some uncle tells and shows you something new)
Good luck!

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AVKor, 2020-12-17
@AVKor

Java as a first language is a poor choice.
The first PL learns not in order to later look for work on it, but in order to master a number of basic concepts.
Never hire a programmer as a tutor (I mean those who do not have experience in the education system - they do not have teaching experience, but what is needed is knowledge and experience in teaching; this is clearly seen in all kinds of courses - people do not know how to teach , although at the same time they can be good programmers themselves; this is a different kind of activity, and you need to look for a good programming teacher ).
Age itself is not a hindrance, but one must understand the fact that not everyone has the ability for all types of activities. As with it at you - here in absentia nobody will be able to tell.

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Orkhan Hasanli, 2020-12-16
@azerphoenix

Good afternoon!

Is learning Java at 30 real?

Yes, of course it's real. In general, you will be surprised how many "switchers" are in the world. I started learning Java in 2018 (27 years old).
I started learning java on my own at home, from books and YouTube

Tutorials, YouTube, udemy, etc. this is certainly good, but books and practice are always a priority.
Read not only about Java, but also try to get basic academic knowledge.
But something is stuck in place, I don’t know where to go

It's up to you to decide where to go. If you are interested in enterprise development, then you should study Java EE, servlets, jsp, etc. further. Also learn the frameworks Spring, Play, etc. Of course, you need to learn the basics of the web (html, css, js). Learn tcp/ip. Understand how the internet works. Learn databases (sql, no sql). Pay attention to ACID. Learn design patterns, data structures, etc. Deal with ORM (EclipseLink, Hibernate, etc.)
If you are interested in mobile development, then of course you should study Android, additionally study kotlin. Learn Firebase, sqlite, ormlite, room.
It was not possible to find good courses in Moscow, a tutor too, tell me where to find a person who will help to learn java, maybe there are some closed congresses of programmers, or something for beginners, where you can meet and recharge with new forces.

Look, it is not necessary to look for courses in Moscow. You can attend webinars.
Here is an example of a free training from EPAM - https://www.training.ru/#!/Training/2681?lang=ru
Here, for example, courses from IT-Academy - https://www.it-academy.by/
Here are courses and mentoring services from Sergey Nemchinsky - https://foxminded.com.ua/
About me: 6 years of work in a construction company, after three years of maternity leave; and now on maternity leave, I decided that it was time for my dream to come true and become a programmer, I had not studied anything before, and now I really want to learn this language and retrain. What do you say to that? Maybe it's just a dream, and it's not worth even trying? Or maybe you should not be afraid that younger employers will come first?

Since, as you put it, you study programming “in a rush”, then this is no longer a dream, but a goal that needs to be achieved over time. Is it worth quitting if you like it? Of course not! Do you need to develop further? Definitely yes! As for employers, it is possible that a young age is important for some companies, but in general it is not. It is important for them that you want to develop and know how to work.
By the way, watch an interview with a Java developer who worked at EPAM and who started learning java at the age of 30 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM445BnBhpw
Well, practice. Study some library or framework and, upon completion of the study, create a couple of services in a freelance exchange (kwork.ru for example) and complete orders. This will also help you get better to some extent.

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Maxim Fedorov, 2020-12-17
@Maksclub

How to become a Java developer in 1.5 years

My name is Sergey, I am 40 years old and now I work as a Java developer in a German company. <...> This is my first job as a developer.

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Sergey Evsyukov, 2020-12-17
@evsujkov

I'm 37, this year I started learning Java because this language is needed for Android development. Before that, I was a little interested in Python, but I was not a programmer.
It seems to me that age is not a hindrance to learning something new at all.

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GavriKos, 2020-12-16
@GavriKos

Do not forget - not everyone is given to be someone. About the fact that "anyone can program" is not true. This applies to any area in general. I can't write poetry. And draw from the word at all. And someone can - but cannot program. AND THIS IS NORMAL.
And to study from scratch - IMHO you need a mentor. Try to advertise on freelance exchanges.

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Pashenka, 2020-12-16
@like-a-boss

The most important thing is the presence of enthusiasm. Because it simply won’t (most likely), and at such moments without real interest in this activity, you can quickly burn out and give up. You need perseverance. If you have some time (at least half a year just to try it, get some understanding of what it is in general and whether it is still interesting), then why not? Try. I am 31. I have to constantly learn new things and refresh the old. But I'm tired of it :)

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Saboteur, 2020-12-17
@saboteur_kiev

It was not possible to find good courses in Moscow

Yes, almost any course - the basics. You need to be able to learn on your own
, tell me where to find a person who will help to learn java
maybe there are some closed congresses of programmers, or something for beginners, where you can meet and recharge with new forces

Are you sure you are 30 years old? What other closed congresses? Maybe closed telegram channels for 5th grade schoolchildren?
I decided that it’s time for my dream to come true and become a programmer, I didn’t study anything before, but now I really want to learn this language and retrain.

It is very difficult to immediately into programming, if previously there was no IT background at all. Development is an area with a high entry threshold, you need to learn and understand a lot and have learning skills.
Maybe it's just a dream, and it's not worth even trying?

If this is your dream, don't. If you are ready to spend real effort on it - try it.
Or maybe you should not be afraid that younger employers will come first?

It is not very clear who the young are and when youth ends. Do you already feel old? Only 30...

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nApoBo3, 2020-12-17
@nApoBo3

Really.
The rest depends on motivation, resources, ability to learn.
With this, usually in 30 years there are difficulties.
If at the age of 30 there is no result, then there is a problem with motivation.
At 30, there is usually a problem with resources (children, obligations to relatives, mortgages).
The ability to learn at 30 is lower than at 20.
Those. relatively speaking, if you are successful in your current field, but for some non-financial reasons (since the salary in IT is a myth, the same salary in a huge number of other areas of people with the necessary personal qualities) want to change it, yes you will most likely succeed. If you are not successful, then it is likely that the reasons that prevented you from becoming successful in your current field by the age of 30 will not allow you to become successful in this endeavor, especially since their influence is not weakening, but increasing.
And yes, learning java at 30 is more difficult than at 20. Therefore, you will have to make much more effort than the new generation of specialists, and you will compete in the market with them.

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