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Denis Ogurtsov2014-04-13 14:20:51
IT education
Denis Ogurtsov, 2014-04-13 14:20:51

Is it worth it to get a specialist?

I am currently studying to be a specialist at a technical university.
He received his bachelor's degree that year.
There are no plans to go to the master's.
Problem:
There is no desire and time to write a diploma, and it's a little insulting that I proposed to make a good system, but nobody needs it, the main thing is that "everything should be correctly designed according to the requirements" :). I want to quit.
Questions:
1) In the Bologna system, abroad, there is no concept of "specialist". There are bachelor's and master's degrees. It's right?
2) In the column about higher education, can I say "Yes"?
3) Will they take me to good corporations, abroad and here, with a bachelor's degree (the question of having a "crust" and not about knowledge)?

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Yuri Morozov, 2014-04-13
@DenisOgr

1) True, well, in general, the correspondence between entities in different countries is quite complex. See wiki, there was a spreading article.
2) Yes.
3) Depends on. Some corporations write like this: either a PhD or five years of work in their specialty. Specific requirements depend, of course, on the company. Some companies do not hire people without a degree in a specialty at all, even if you are at least three times a mega-specialist. This is the policy.
If I were you, I would do the following: I figured out a list of companies where I would like to work (for example, Google, Amazon), rummaged through their sites in search of vacancies and looked through the specific requirements.
A verified education plays a powerful role in immigration, but if there is an invitation from a specific employer, this is easier.

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Sergey, 2014-04-13
@edinorog

Abroad there is not much. The brains of politicians, for example. So should ours also be guided by them?

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wills0n, 2014-04-13
@wills0n

Higher education received in Russia (bachelor, specialist) in 90% of cases (except for a number of top universities) is not quoted in the West. That is, in Russia you have a higher education, in the West you do not have it.

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BigBrain, 2014-04-13
@BigBrain

if you know how to do something specifically and consider IT a waste of time, then quit it and go get busy with your own self-study.

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lookid, 2014-04-13
@lookid

1) Yes, but a small nuance. Bachelor is the initial higher, i.e. they will still send 100% to complete their studies.
2) Yes, you can, but the interviews are conducted not by spheral teachers of our universities, but by rather nervous and irritable top managers and leads.
3) Not a fact, there are too many of you such "baka-laurels" (Baka (Japanese: 馬鹿, ばか, バカ baka) is an expletive with the meanings "fool", "blockhead", "idiot", and also "fool", in a diminutive - affectionate form.) Corporate projects are written for 2-4 years, and you barely studied for 4 years. Somehow not stable.

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sim3x, 2014-04-13
@sim3x

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3) The red crust of the master will become a weighty argument in your favor, but it will stand after any results of your work.
But it is better to put the question in a different way: how can a university help you in solving business problems that may arise in front of you.
You can find a job in an industry in which you need specific knowledge that is being prepared at a particular university. And already on the fact of the need for advanced training to go there to study.
And yes, the crusts of not all universities are equally useful.

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Yuri Shikanov, 2014-04-13
@dizballanze

I advise you not to go to a specialist, I made this decision 2 years ago and have no regrets.

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Fat Lorrie, 2014-04-14
@Free_ze

When I, a specialist, was hired to work in a Western company, they specifically asked that I was not a bachelor. I tried to explain what a specialist is, but they agreed that it is closer to a master's degree =) So... There is a possibility that in the West they do not trust bachelor's degrees.

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Andrey Golumenov, 2014-04-16
@Golumenov

I studied for 5 years, received a diploma of an engineer-mathematician. At the moment I work in Russia, in a branch of an American company. After talking, it turned out that Russian education (especially technical) is quoted and the higher the degree you get, the easier it will be to get a job in a foreign company.

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