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Maur2019-10-02 00:00:21
IT education
Maur, 2019-10-02 00:00:21

Is it worth going to university for a future programmer?

Should a future programmer go to university?
Now I'm in the 11th grade, I'm preparing for ZNO (Unified State Examination)
My goal is to develop games, I want to create a company for their development (in the future), but I understand that it takes a lot of time to do this, and it will be almost impossible to study in parallel.
Now I’m seriously thinking about not entering the university (as you understand, this is not a very easy decision, because I have to give up a lot)
Now I often hear from my parents: “You will always have time to quit your studies,” but I’m afraid that “You will always have time. .." end after I die.
You may think that I can finish the university, and then do what I want, but as you understand, then I need to give the university the best years of my life,
What do you think about this?

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Sergey Gornostaev, 2019-10-02
@sergey-gornostaev

A future programmer needs to learn how to use the search. Without the ability to independently search and analyze information, a career in this area cannot be made.

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Pavel K, 2019-10-02
@PavelK

If you now have at least intermediate-level skills in programming, you can not go (well, except that the rector from Baumanka himself called and tearfully begged to enter them). Why? Yes, because, as shown purely by my experience based on cousins ​​(I have more than 5 of them), who had the same choice - if by the time such a question arises there are no achievements (hello world does not count), then they will not be further. Because if there is a desire, then it has been there for a long time, and not like an attempt to jump off a departing train 5 years long.
Usually, at best, the designer / layout designer / administrator ends up in one person in the alley.
For a "game development company" you need not so much development experience as management experience. In part, this can be taught by the university. In the direct sense of the game, they don’t teach how to make games anywhere, but first a couple of years of a long and tedious drag, which is unlikely to come in handy (depending on the university, of course). If you don’t want a daily form, get a job if your parents are too brain-compressed. The best years are when a hundred thousand in your pocket, and the dick is still worth it.

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Programmir, 2019-10-02
@Programmir

Gates and Zurkerberg did not waste their time.

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Anton R., 2019-10-02
@anton_reut

My goal is to develop games, I want to create a company for their development (in the future)
- This is usually written by people who like to play but not to make games. You just don’t understand that creating games is a very difficult task + that roulette will shoot / burn out. This is a business where you are either a star or a bottom, how much money do you have to keep the company running until the project takes off? Who and from what will pay salaries to people while development is underway? This is one of hundreds of questions in this business.

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max_bez_l, 2019-10-02
@max_bez_l

Dude, don't make hasty decisions. Take a year off after school. During this year, try to delve into the profession that you want. And in a year you will look at the results. There will be several options - 1. you loosen up without a regime and control, but as a result there will be no results. 2. You will understand that there is not enough base and theory. 3. You will trample.
In the 1st and 2nd options, choose a university
In the 3rd option, try to get a job as an intern or junior (whatever you can do)

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dollar, 2019-10-02
@dollar

If your goal is to start a company, then it will be useful to get an economic or legal education. And even better education in the field of management. An MBA degree is generally cool.
The head of the company should not be engaged in programming, even if there are skills, because otherwise the company will fall apart. You just need to competently delegate your powers to the appropriate specialists. In general, it takes all the time.
Even if you are an ordinary bearded tech lead. department, a cool programmer, and you have beginners and intermediates who have just graduated from a university or with little experience, you still can’t do everything for them. Let them screw up, and you will show where they are wrong. So they will grow, otherwise they simply will not work, the deadlines will burn out, the company will fall apart. Well, I'm exaggerating, in fact, everything is more complicated, it depends on the management style.

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sim3x, 2019-10-02
@sim3x

Should a future programmer go to university?
worth it if he understands that the university will give him something faster than he will study himself
Now I'm in the 11th grade, I'm preparing for ZNO (USE)
have been preparing for this since 9
My goal is to develop games, I want to create a game development company (in the future), but I understand that it takes a lot of time to do this, and it will be almost impossible to study at the same time.
no. Training (in one form or another) will have to be combined with work
It is already too late to create a company in this sector - the probability of a shot is too small
Now I’m seriously thinking about not entering the university (as you understand, this is not a very easy decision, because I have to give up a lot)
a sheet is taken, goals for 1-2-5 years are prescribed, options are prescribed upon admission and without
Often now I hear from my parents: "You will always have time to quit your studies", but I am afraid that "You will always have time ..." will end after I die.
wrong statement of the question
In the scoop, the university gave a boost in life
Now the university gives a boost only if the parents have connections and formally demand a piece of paper for the place where you can be placed
Those if you are immediately placed somewhere as a leader, then yes, the university should
finish there are no smart universities in the region.
This includes two top universities in the IT field

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Jitsy, 2019-10-02
@Jitsy

Subjective opinion - worth it. Several colleagues are now facing this problem. People under 40 years old have VO (non-core), experience, there is no way to transfer to the desired position, since, for example, in some budgetary organizations, everything is now strictly regulated by position and they don’t take it without specialized education. I know cases when it was hard to come to an agreement in commercial organizations, since people did not have a VO according to their profile. But these are all isolated cases of the greed of individual leaders. If you don’t want to strain a lot, you can consider a bachelor’s degree as an option - a correspondence department, enter and work. And I agree with the commentators - you need to decide on the direction, judging by the post, you gravitate more towards business informatics.

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AlexHell, 2019-10-10
@AlexHell

You learn basic skills, you go to a university, you study the whole program that they give for term papers / labs, and along the way you ask for additional lists of literature, plus you google for prickly words, at a university everything is really given on top, but all the same basic skills are hooked, then you google them you yourself read smart books (it’s possible not from cover to cover, but specific topics that you went through),
you do labs - and not only, you do projects for yourself - to consolidate
you do more than they require, you do to develop skills, what can you do, but not just "C passed", "DB passed"
>> My goal is to develop games, I want to create a company for their development (in the
future)
game dev is programming in the 1st stage,
i.e. you learn to program
as I understand it, not an artist or an animator, but exactly those who will think over the architecture, and then implement it, test it and fix bugs - this is game development programming
- this is the Subject area
, i.e. applied development K..
to accounting.. to game development.. to robotics
>> but I'm afraid that "You always have time ..." will end after I die.
if you want to study from now to now (conditional 4 years at a university), then your studies and career as a programmer will end with it,
because you always have to study
and really all the best years (from 15 to 45) will pass in your learning something new - new technologies will replace old, new approaches to work, new projects, new productivity requirements .. if you skip all this and think that I studied in University (or yourself) and now "I know everything" - you will quickly become non-competitive with many (but the niche will remain, you will always need some kakers who can still do it on the old legacy technology)
an important nuance - do not think, the author of the question, that some couple of years at the university will save you, do not build illusions that "do your company in 4 years", the point is to develop skills and learn a lot of new things, 4 years is really not enough .. if you go to a university and do your own side projects for reinforcement - you can do (oh my God!) game dev projects! do snakes, tic-tac-toe, do singles, then do network tic-tac-toe, then do 10x10 tic-tac-toe, study minmax and game theory on tops, and combinatorics, then write AI for your tic-tac-toe
and after 4 years you know a lot of things and have gained a lot of things
are possible in real gamedev (and not with a crust and who can’t do anything)
.. and then on uncle
.. or for yourself - in your own business .. yes, you need ADDITIONAL skills, not INSTEAD OF programming - to be a manager / leader / director .. but additional, and this is additional YEARS to develop such skills

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Natalka_Z, 2019-10-11
@Natalka_Z

Going to uni is worth it anyway. This does not interfere with programming.

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xfg, 2019-10-02
@xfg

You don't have to go to university. Why this linear algebra, vectors, matrices, determinants. Download the unit, poke it with the mouse and a billion in your pocket, and spend the money for training on assets.

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mr-troll, 2019-10-02
@mr-troll

Not

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Andrew, 2019-10-02
@RaGe22

If you have not done anything but wanted, then go to university here without options

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Dmitry Shumov, 2019-10-02
@dshumov

Drop out of school right now. Why suffer for another six months, waste strength and nerves on "nobody" need ZNO (USE)?

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Puma Thailand, 2019-10-02
@opium

And how did you figure out that there would not be enough time? By what formula? And why don’t you, for example, think that there won’t be enough money, if you take a studio, then it’s nominally twenty people and they need to pay a salary, let’s say for a minimum salary of 2k bucks per month, in total, you only need to have 40k bucks per month for a salary

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