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tiaro2015-03-20 00:19:10
IT education
tiaro, 2015-03-20 00:19:10

Is it worth continuing to study?

Now I'm on the 1st year of a good university. Mainly computer science and mathematics are studied at the direction. So far, there is a lot more mathematics than programming, which is quite standard for first courses, as far as I know.
The problem is that for some reason I no longer like mathematics. I can hardly overcome myself to do something.
I am almost sure that if I devote enough time to mathematics, I will be able to finish the university normally, but there will be little pleasant in the process. I'm even thinking about quitting university and going to work as a programmer - but where?
I don't have a lot of knowledge: I seem to know C# quite well, I more or less understand OOP. I also have basic knowledge of C++. Well familiar with GitHub.
I'm learning Unity3D, I even recently found a team of indie developers and I'm making a fairly large game with them (though so far my role there is quite small).
It is unlikely that with my current knowledge I will be taken to a more or less decent company.

And now I’m thinking: to score (or at least postpone until the end of the session) on this matter and just continue to study, or maybe it’s worth pulling up knowledge and going to try to get a job as a junior?
If the second option, then what should be taught in priority? Learn more about .NET, or something else that I don't know, like a DBMS? And in general, how would it be better to move to the level of a good programmer?

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Vladimir Borutkin, 2015-03-20
@Atanvar

Drop out of school without hesitation, and do not listen to anyone, McDonald's also needs people.

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AlexLIn, 2015-03-20
@AlexLIn

well, sort of.
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thepry, 2015-03-20
@thepry

Everyone criticizes the decision not to get higher education, they write that you are lucky that you need to force yourself to study. However, education is not free! You pay with time and sometimes money. If you are a full-time student, then you will essentially spend 5 years of your life getting a higher education. And I could get, say, 5 years of work experience in some specialty. And these 5 years you will earn good money (if you are an IT specialist), and not live on a scholarship of 20 dollars.
And then the question arises - is it worth it? Is this notorious “base” that is taught at the institute so important? Is it true that at the institute they “teach to learn” and what are the criteria for this skill? Is it possible that an adult person himself will not receive the knowledge that he will actually need?
I think that this decision is at least ambiguous. There are both pros and cons.
PS It is difficult to expect that studying at a Russian university will be interesting, because it will be filled with the arrogance of teachers, inadequate requirements (such as handing in “notebooks” - a meaningless notebook in the era of electronic copies), crowds of people who study simply because “it’s necessary” and other extremely ineffective nonsense. Well, the efficiency of such training is extremely low.

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Optimus, 2015-03-20
Pyan @marrk2

AlexLIn is right, we are not in the USA, so it's worth continuing

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afiskon, 2015-03-20
@afiskon

Learn more. Right now, math seems pretty useless to you. Perhaps it will seem like this to you for another 5 years after the provision of the university. But this is as long as you write simple applications "went to the database, generated json" or clipped forms in C # there. When you start doing real tasks, it will come in very handy. If you don't know math, you'll be riveting molds all your life.

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Alexander Vasilenko, 2015-03-20
@SanchelliosProg

Comrade, learn, be patient, there are reasons for this:
1) A good programmer with a piece of paper looks more convincing than without it.
2) A university is like an army - it teaches you to endure and fight, which is useful in life. The advantage of the university is that you are not beaten on the head with boots.
3) Math is the best brain steroid. In life, we hear a lot of prejudice, in the style of "not everyone needs math." If everyone taught mathematics, we would live in an ideal world.
4) mathematics will help you more than once in programming.
5) do not rush to work if you have the opportunity to sit on your neck)) But study hard at the same time! Very hard!
In short, keep learning! Life is full of pain and suffering, university is flowers, enjoy your studies!!! Don't do stupid things like me. You are already lucky that you are studying to be a programmer!!

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Nikita, 2015-03-20
@jkotkot

Study for a bachelor's degree and quit if you don't like it.
Although it is possible even now, but considering that you are not able to study and that you ask such questions, then you need to study to the victorious .. at least there will be a crust.

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Ilya Bobkov, 2015-03-20
@heksen

The author, go to zaochku and get a job with anyone and write code in parallel. And get married.

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asd111, 2015-03-20
@asd111

Wait two years. In the third year it will be very high, and in the fourth year it will be even better.
Not everyone likes mathematics, this is normal, the main thing is to get a diploma without triples and after graduation you can forever forget about mathematics, but now just pass all exams and tests without triples.
It's better not to drop a point, full-time education is more valued, including in the West. And a good diploma can be useful to you if you want to go abroad.
For example, one guy left, went to work at the factory. Then he did again. Lost 5 years.
Late start in IT - is there any chance?
These 5 years from 22 to 27 are the most important in a career as a rule. If you have a tower at 22, then consider that everything will be fine by 27 (two of my friends became heads of departments at 26-27 after receiving a tower at 22). And if you get a tower at 27, then it will be worse, respectively, because. other people by this time already have 5 years of experience.

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DigitalSmile, 2015-03-20
@DigitalSmile

It seems to me that you should not quit studying, but find the right motivator for yourself. For example, try to apply mathematical knowledge in the game you mentioned (it's hard to imagine a project with more mathematics). Believe me, if you apply this knowledge and get a result, then this can become a strong motivator to continue learning, and possibly deepen it somewhere.
And they correctly write to you, the university "teaches to learn", I would not advise giving up such a great opportunity. It is very difficult to learn such skills on your own.

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Jacob, 2015-03-21
@Logrise

Classical crisis of the end of the 1st course. The task of teachers is to expel as many as possible of those who are not ready to invest. Especially budget employees. Therefore, they press. Need to be patient. And in the second year it will be easier. In any case, that's how it was for me.

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Ruslan Fursevich, 2015-06-08
@RusFurs

you know, mathematics is difficult for you because of its quantity, but math is harder to learn than programming, because it takes more time, and this is the whole mistake of universities, they always compress the training program, making it hellishly difficult at the beginning and trifling at the end, anyway remember! DO NOT WORK FOR ANYTHING FOR ASSESSMENT THIS IS JUST CRAZY A BEAUTIFUL DIPLOMA, BUT WHAT IN REPLACEMENT THE RAPED BRAIN IS A LITTLE STUPID BY THE END, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY remember if you just studied for 5 years, not trying to regularly practice all that knowledge, even for fun, just for fun, then all your torments will be foreseen in a McDuck even with a super diploma, settling down somewhere for 5-10 SECONDS looking through a resume, but as you thought in real life, at best, hr will invite you for an interview and offer a test, at worst, you will not be interested because theorists are not needed, you work in an indie project, so dare to be interested,

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