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Evgeny Stavitsky2016-01-31 22:49:19
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Evgeny Stavitsky, 2016-01-31 22:49:19

Is it possible for a student to get a job abroad?

In a few words about myself: 18 years old, first year student of KPI. The specialty is related to mathematical methods of information processing and cryptography. I know python + django at a good level, and I'm going to develop further in this direction.
The goal is this: get a job abroad -> get permanent residence.
An important nuance is to study here for six years, simultaneously teaching a bunch of unnecessary humanitarian subjects, there is no desire, so I want to do something right now. Unfortunately, the option to stay and get a degree is not considered, as there are many reasons to start working now.
Questions:
1. Is it possible to get a job in a company in Ukraine, and then go to the main office, which is located, for example, in Poland or Germany? Is a diploma required?
2. If you get a job immediately and directly in foreign companies, is a diploma required? Are there any student options?
Generally speaking, what is the probability of successfully finding a job abroad without a diploma, but being a good specialist?
There is an even less radical way, to get an internship. Who understands this topic, please tell us about the pitfalls.
I would be grateful for any information and links to useful resources.

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sim3x, 2016-01-31
@sim3x

1. You can. If you get out of you, well, here's a very good developer. Terms 1-3 years.
You will not be transported so that you receive permanent residence there.
I haven’t heard about the active relocation of offices now
2. 5+ years of proven experience, then they will talk about relocation or a diploma + work experience
Internships depend on your skill and knowledge of English + the language of the destination country

I know python + django at a good level
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Vlad Timofeev, 2016-01-31
@PyTiMa

Didn't you find out about entering a university abroad in your specialty?
Having a diploma is not necessary, but with normal education, the university will educate you, give you time to think and develop. He will help you re-educate.
As for employment: I am a first-year student and my faculty constantly receives offers for junior vacancies. But this does not mean that companies only hire people from universities, I am sure that if an intelligent person comes to them, they will take him, and even teach him. If you are a cool specialist, you know the language in which the team communicates, then there will certainly be no problems. But the "cool specialist" comes with time, so you have to prepare for mistakes and failures that should not stop you (within reason).

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robben1234, 2016-02-01
@robben1234

If you are now, in your first year, you can get a permanent job (and if with a flexible schedule, then in general) here, then you can do it there.
CS in Ukraine is taught mostly poorly. There are enthusiasts who sometimes work in universities, sometimes not in universities - they give an excellent education, but you need to look for them. If you just come to the department and sort out the teachers, there will be 1-3 of them. But in our country, as well as in the CIS in general, applied mathematics is very good.
But if I were you (I was there 2 years ago, though with the worst knowledge of programming for sure) I would not be in a hurry to load into the tractor. A programmer, in itself, is not the most prestigious profession in civilized countries. Here, our profession travels due to the export of the product (x30 earnings, count), there is no such thing there. We're middle class, blue collar.
Therefore, if for the sake of money, it is better to stay in Ukraine. Ukrainian specialists, as most often Russian and Belarusian ones, but I am not exactly familiar with their situation, on average receive more than Polish ones.

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JohnJon, 2016-02-01
@JohnJon

If you get a job immediately and directly in foreign companies, is a diploma required?

Yes. All Russians who work abroad have a diploma and, as a rule, a good university.
There is little or no chance of going abroad without a diploma.
And why 6 years to study? They have only been studying for 4 years now.

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Puma Thailand, 2016-01-31
@opium

In your case, you just need to study abroad

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Erling, 2016-03-18
@Erling

Go study in Finland at arcada.fi in English - free HE, but need about 4k euros every year for self-sustainment (need to confirm this).
At the same time, learn the language (English + Finnish / Swedish) and look for a job as soon as you can. 4 years of study + maybe find a job while you live there.

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