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fdroid2018-03-04 18:34:56
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fdroid, 2018-03-04 18:34:56

Is household TP-Link 841 really equal to Mikrotik 2011?

I serve the school on outsourcing. ASUS RT-N16 is used as a router, connected via a media converter to the provider's optics. Recently, Kamaz demolished the support along which this very optics walked. A couple of days later, the connection was restored, the provider sent a new optic, and since then the problems have begun. The Internet disappeared, I called the subscriber service, they said "just a minute, the programmer will check", the programmer did something, the Internet appeared. Same story the next day. then again. Today I was at school, pulled the network into a couple of cabinets - puncher, cable channels - romance! Internet disappeared again. I call the provider, they say "a programmer will come to you at n hours n minutes". A programmer arrived (well, it's not my fault that any IT specialist in our village is called a programmer by default. By the way, I'm also a "programmer" LOL), poked around something (I was careful not to reset the router, because I have port forwarding, mac filters and something else configured there), he said, they say, "we are all right, the problems are on your side and in general - the schmuck router is already old, change it to a normal one. Further dialogue (I - I, P - programmer):
Me: What is normal?
P: - Any TP-Link!
Me: - Well, there is also a D-Link DIR-300 (old) and TP-Link 741 in the stash
. beer. But, if anything, we have TP-Link 841, we can supply it, it will be enough.
Me: - And if some Mikrotik?
P: - Also the topic is normal, you need to take at least RB2011. And 3011 is better.
Me: - Wait, so, after all, should I put 841 or 2011? What's better?
P: - Both are normal, but only necessarily Mikrotik or TP-Link, because. TP-Link works differently , better than any other router. And Mikrotik is just cool, but not lower than 2011, because household Mikrotiks are a hat.
Me: - That is, I understand correctly that 841, which costs a thousand rubles, is as normal as 2011 for six thousand rubles?
P: - Umm... Yes. Because TP-Links work in a special
way Me: - ...
In general, I did not specify that the characteristics of 2011 are approximately equal to household 951 - the same processor, the same RAM. Because the person came obviously literate, why would I, an enikey worker, argue with him? In general, this provider has long been seen in sympathy for TP-Link, only its subscribers are put. But, honestly, I just didn’t understand - how does TP-Link work in such a special way and that the conditional TP-LINK TL-WR841N works no worse than the conditional Mikrotik RB2011iL-IN?
PS Inet, by the way, after the manipulations of the programmer earned, but for how long - it is not clear.

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Valentin, 2018-03-04
@vvpoloskin

These are the people who ruin the life of tech support.
If you are so literate, well, figure out why your connection is lost - poppies do not come there, the port jumps on the medic all the time, the signal is weak - and already present the diagnostic results to the operator. And if literacy is still not enough, maybe you shouldn’t behave so arrogantly?
PS From the dialogue, I realized that the person from the operator has much more experience than you. And he advised you something that will reduce the likelihood of your contacting him. And Mikrotik differs from tlink only in an increased number of ports (the presence of a 1ge port) and licensed firmware.

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Sergey, 2018-03-04
@edinorog

tlinks are normal. Only byad with firmware. they are from the category of "set and forget"

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AntHTML, 2018-03-05
@anthtml

If we consider the routers of the "corporate" segment, then everything is fine for everyone there, even corporate d-links work quite well.
But the "home", "budget" segment is about the same for everyone, it holds a home load of 5 clients, and it was not developed for more.
Yes, there are enthusiasts, "gentushniks" who claim that a budget Tupolink with a properly configured WRT will do a micro, and there is some truth in this. But here it turns out that the time that teak engineers spent on finishing routers you spend on steaming and finishing WRT for Tupolink and the total cost is the same.
For me, since a fiber optic line comes in and it doesn’t have PON, it’s better to take the RB2011iLS-IN and throw it away, a cheap, often blunt media converter, and a 10-port gateway with such functionality is more than enough to manage routing within the school so that student computers do not have access to VK, and teachers’ computers are free went to Tube and so on.

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CityCat4, 2018-03-06
@CityCat4

very cheap, very simple, and at the same time quite stable

That's what "pretty". The "seven hundredth" TP-Link router hung stably once every three or four days on just 5 - 6 phones via WiFi, and without video and active tyrnet - just software updates, whatsapp ... Mikrotik RB2011 - half a year - not a single freeze.
The access point from TP-Link - one or two clients (phone and tablet) - freezes every three to four months, although the load is minimal.
Yes, very cheap. Yes, it's pretty simple. But I'd rather put an asus or a zuhel if there is no money or desire to dig into the winbox for mikrotik.

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Gregory, 2018-03-06
@Maxlinus

TP-Link works differently, better than any other router.

no further reading

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Vladimir Zhurkin, 2018-03-09
@icCE

If we look at performance, then look at the number of packets per second.
The heart of tplink is the Atheros AR7241
Mikrotik had a Mikrotik RB751U-2HnD which is now out of production.
https://mikrotik.com/product/RB751G-2HnD
Here you can see the performance in packages within the mikrotik device for this processor.
Then look at the same 2011
https://mikrotik.com/product/RB2011UiAS-IN
You can see that 2011 is indeed slightly more powerful than 751. (conditionally twice)
But! The 2011 has a separate switch chip that handles traffic and doesn't go through the processor.
More precisely there the part of ports is divided.
https://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/RB2011UiAS-16062...
Therefore, what the person wanted to say there in the end is anyone's guess.
My opinion, if you need for the office, then you need to start from the tasks.
I would look towards 3011 as newer and really powerful.
If you don’t need such power, then it’s quite possible to take hex that can do hardware encryption for VPN (if necessary). Here he will definitely make tplink :)
On the subject of wifi, I prefer two different devices, not a combine.

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lightmanua, 2019-10-12
@lightmanua

70 days no reboot, RB2011UiAS-2HnD 40 people on wi-fi, 90 on a network with direct internet access. Several vlan and 24 filter rules, several nats. It works great, and even the 941st Tp-link cannot be compared with it naturally. It is totally worth its money. Serves a restaurant.

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Ruslan, 2020-05-04
@msHack

In terms of the processor, yes, they have the same performance, but they have different firmware, you don’t need to compare the Chinese tp link firmware with the normal RouterOS, the Chinese violated all rfc standards

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