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CoolerMan2014-02-09 13:50:30
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CoolerMan, 2014-02-09 13:50:30

Is higher education mandatory in the future field of work as a programmer?

Before thinking about the question, don't get me wrong, my question is in no way related to the need for the learning process itself.
Having an education in a field other than IT and computer technology.
According to many successful programmers, is it important to have a diploma in this particular direction, will they not find fault with the fact that a person has programming skills, but has a diploma in another field of education, say, a process engineer in production.
Yes, I completely agree, university courses provide education, set the direction, provide the basis of knowledge.
And most importantly, if you are more inclined to answer "it's worth it", let's say there is an opportunity to get a second higher education.
Is it necessary to get it at a prestigious university or can you get an education in this direction at a university that does not specialize in working in the IT field, but has several directions in this area and a department of Information Technology.

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Oleg, 2014-02-09
@CoolerMan

Who knows, but the fact that this is not a frail help is a fact!
Is leaving university the right decision?

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Sergey, 2014-02-09
@edinorog

If you write a utorrent-class prog in an hour on your knee, then they will lick your ass at work and without a higher education. Whiskey tea will be served and a masseuse and secretary will be hired.

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Sa1en, 2014-02-09
@Sa1en

I came to our company (not a state institution) at 17 (I didn’t even have time to graduate from a technical school, that is, I didn’t even have a specialized secondary school). And it's okay.
And now I'm slowly graduating from high school in absentia. Again, it doesn't make much sense. It doesn’t add brains, it doesn’t affect the office. When I ask for another promotion, no one remembers education.
We have personnel who graduated from the university (and some with honors!), But they are very far from reality. I am silent about teamwork and all the benefits that come with it. But, corny, in their code I sometimes cry. Very, very old solutions that have already outlived their usefulness. Again, why is that? The "school" program is simply 5-8 years behind. And this, in fact, is not the fault of these personnel.
As @edinorog rightly pointed out- if the hands and brains are screwed to the correct seats, then no one will stutter about your "piece of paper".
Decide for yourself :)
PS Lyrics. But college gave me a lot. But not in terms of IT disciplines in general (they are 20 years behind :D), but in the formation of their image, thoughts, etc. The best years of my life, now I regret that I skipped the 4th course.

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Alexander Karabanov, 2014-02-09
@karabanov

This higher education (the specialty is not important at all, which is annoying at times) helps with employment. With a higher education, you can take the desired position without probationary periods, rising from the bottom, working on weekends and holidays.
For example, I don’t have a higher education, you have to earn trust first and only then do what you want. But I work in a state-owned company, perhaps in a private company they will first of all look at knowledge and experience, and only then ask questions about having a diploma ...

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Ruslan Kasymov, 2014-02-09
@HDAPache

I have 3 good programmers at work, graduates of the higher but border school%)

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user4291, 2014-02-09
@user4291

In fact, for a good programmer, the university program is only a small part of his knowledge. Well, personally, I think that being a programmer higher education is not so important. But when hiring, the employer will choose a candidate with a higher education, since a candidate with a higher education definitely has some knowledge, and a candidate without a higher education does not have a fact. And of course, no one canceled the competition for solving IT problems ...

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CoolerMan, 2014-02-09
@CoolerMan

It is clear that if the question arises, I will receive a second degree.
Thanks to everyone, maybe someone else wants to add a few words from himself, write, I will periodically drop in.

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CoolerMan, 2014-02-09
@CoolerMan

By the way, I also noticed that I went through college and further higher education, I liked the picture in college more, everyone was interested in the learning process, everyone discussed certain details, the discipline was even higher than in many higher institutions, as a result, at the university I noticed a crowd of schoolchildren who do not even know why they came there and really graduating from high school, they are not quite formed as specialists.

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dadster, 2014-02-10
@dadster

I would also draw attention to the fact that now the labor market is in need of programmers, so perhaps the requirements for them are relaxed. What will happen in 10 years is unclear. Perhaps a diploma will be a decisive factor in your device for a specific very desirable position.
One of my friends didn't get a very tempting job in an oil company. I went through several interviews, everyone liked it, everything was fine. And then she was told - well, a small formality, draw up a contract fish in English. And she was very sorry that she had not invested money and time (very little) in learning the language earlier.
The same, in my opinion, can be with education.

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v1os, 2014-02-11
@v1os

As for knowledge, they can be obtained at will. Many times I have seen humanitarian programmers, chemists, and economists. But not everyone is hired, but in vain

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Vadim_Morozov, 2018-08-22
@Vadim_Morozov

I agree with the opinion above - this is indeed often very harmful, since they can instill unnecessary skills and those that have long been written off. The same goes for courses in many cases. Everything comes with practice and work, and it is better to get a diploma here kupit-diplom.com.ua

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