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HellWalk2017-04-25 14:28:36
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HellWalk, 2017-04-25 14:28:36

Internships only for young and only for students?

I work as an SEO-optimizer, this area has already gotten to the end, and for the last year I have been studying php, with plans to switch to a back-end php programmer (of course, while I am looking at junior level vacancies).
It is not yet possible to find a job for a PHP junior (either there is not enough knowledge, or impudence). At the same time, there are various internships - the requirements there are much lower, but all internships are held under the slogan "for students" - and I have not been a student for a long time, I am 31 years old.
Question - internships are only for young people and only for students? Or is it possible to respond to them at any age?
PS Someone will say "write to everyone - it won't be worse." Yes, it won’t get worse, but I have such a stupid habit, if I do something, I do it well, and I write a separate cover letter for each vacancy + I try to find out as much as possible about the company I’m applying to. As a result, this whole thing takes a lot of time. And somehow I don’t want to waste it (if only young students are needed).

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terrier, 2017-04-25
@terrier

Look, there are a few points here:
- Some companies (rather large and bureaucratic) may have an upper age limit for a junior (and it will be somewhere around 25, even if it is not explicitly declared) - there is no chance, you will be filtered out on formal grounds
- And in general, companies prefer younger junior vacancies (as the name suggests). Guys with a midlife crisis who want to take student jobs in their thirties have earned a bad reputation. They are especially disliked by HR itself. However, naturally, there are companies that are ready to "get in position" and "give a second chance." How to find them? Obviously overkill.
- And then we move on to the next moment - in a fit of narcissism and coquetry, you write that you "have ... a stupid habit, if I do something, do it well." Don't be fooled - if you spend a lot of time on each letter, and then also get demotivated when you fail, it means that you are doing poorly. Prepare one template for all companies, in which you clearly explain why an adult uncle wants to go to Malyshev's vacancy and why you will be more valuable to the company than an intelligent student. And add a piece to it specifically for the company: I want to visit you, because ... I like the industry/brand/previous projects and tede

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Vasily Nazarov, 2017-04-25
@vnaz

Write at least 1 (preferably more), even if it's a small, interesting project. And start knocking on the middle immediately.
Or/and try freelancing cheap to start with.

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BBmike, 2017-04-25
@BBmike

Call and ask. What's easier...

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Anton, 2017-04-25
@MoonMaster

Usually, large companies that need workers have internships for both students and young professionals.
An internship for students implies that a potential employee is in his last years and can apply for a place in the company. Usually such internships are guided by one rule: to give basic knowledge, to see how a potential candidate copes with it, and what kind of "specialist" he is in IT. Usually such internships take place in the evening and on the basis of the university. With a special exception - within the walls of the company.
An internship for young professionals implies that you already have experience, but for a number of reasons it is not enough or not enough. Then the company teaches you the specifics of its activities. Usually, not many people from 5-10 people take a group for such courses, but 2-3 people are selected.
In your case, I would advise you to go to interviews. There is nothing like that here, you come to communicate with HR, with a technical specialist. After the interview, the main thing is to understand what your "weak" sides are and, if possible, pump them up.
You can download in several ways:
1. Independently. A very long and laborious process. Moreover, many important and correct moments can be missed.
2. Take paid courses on the Internet. I wouldn't recommend that option either. A lot of time can be spent, but there may be no effect. In fact, they read some kind of lecture to you, and then they give you tasks. You solve them and with the teacher do the analysis.
3. The best option, in my opinion, is to find a mentor. It is imperative that the mentor be more experienced in terms of experience and technology. He can tell you what to do in a given situation, tell you how to do something right.

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orni5, 2017-04-25
@orni5

I think it's better to upgrade to an immediately paid position without internships. But just in case, you can respond to internships. Why not, right?
From my experience, I will say that the cover letter does not play a very big role, they are mainly invited by skills, no matter how hellish copywriter you are. (Although there is no 100% insider information on this issue.)
Try to cut the time for writing a sopr letter in half or three times.

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