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terrator, 2016-10-23 22:30:11

Internships in outsourcing companies (St. Petersburg, Moscow)?

Good evening everyone.
I have been working as a programmer in a small regional company for half a year. Unfortunately, education is not IT, at the beginning of 2015 I decided to study programming, chose Java as one of the most popular and easy to learn, taught on my own for half a year, then from last fall to spring of this year, studied in St. Petersburg at courses at the Polytechnic University, after completing the courses I started looking for a job, unfortunately I couldn’t find it in St. Petersburg for 2 months, I returned home, after 10 days I already went to work)
However, I was not very happy and continued to look for vacancies, simultaneously getting used to a new workplace, signed up for English courses after work , and at night he solved test tasks.
After 4 months, I stopped coding at night because I would simply die from overwork if I continued.
During the search, I realized that companies in the Russian Federation (with customers from the Russian Federation / CIS), perhaps with the exception of Yandex, Kaspersky and a couple of large ones, are far from the best example of the IT community. You can write about the mess that is happening at all levels for a long time, I think this has already been discussed here more than once.
Yandex, Kaspersky, MailRU did not manage to get through due to the lack of mathematical training / technical skills. crusts, change the awl for soap (other companies), even with a slightly higher salary, I don’t see much point. (after finding a suitable vacancy, I look for employee reviews and there, like a blueprint, the same problems as in my current job)
In the process of searching while I was in St. Petersburg, I went for an interview at ReturnOnIntelligence, after successfully passing the test task, talking with HR, then with a technical specialist for an entire hour and a half, this was the first interview in IT, so the pallor of the face, shaking cold hands and emptiness in my head "helped" me, although I liked everything else, then he also applied to T-Systems , but did not pass there due to English.
Finally , most importantly , I would like to know what kind of internships you know in outsourcing companies, preferably in St. Petersburg or Moscow, like those I mentioned above. Main wishes:
1) there is an opportunity to train / learn in the process of work COMMONLY ACCEPTED frameworks and technologies (and not stir up a huge buggy proprietorship that no one outside the office needs), Spring / Hibernate / Maven, etc.
2) the company works only / mainly with foreign customers
3) official registration
4) the possibility of career growth and salary growth
5) paid or free internship and also the level of the initial salary is only of third importance, the main thing is to get a job in a good company, where everything is in order and everything is mind.
Thank you for your responses)

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bnytiki, 2016-10-23
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there is an opportunity to train / learn in the process of work in GENERALLY ACCEPTED frameworks and technologies (and not stir up a huge buggy proprietorism that no one outside the office needs), Spring / Hibernate / Maven, etc.

This is obvious - if the company is not purely IT-shnaya, then its programmers serve a certain enterprise and only it.
And you put it in vain as a criterion.
There are a lot of people who like to save money among foreign customers - and any technology requires additional costs. costs.
They truly hope that they will let you feel the technology if we are talking about very large (a couple of years long) orders.
On the other hand, thanks to the fact that Google promotes its ready-made tools, the same android people work with quite modern technologies. Even small firms.
You don't have to worry. Beginning programmers just grow very quickly.
And in terms of salary as well.
Then growth slows down.
Nobody needs you in a cool company - to mess around with you.
While you are a junior, you need an eye and an eye. And if you learn, there is a great chance that you will leave. Therefore, there is no motivation for companies to coddle with you much.
But the small one will take you with pleasure.
It makes sense to still practice in such small ones before they take you to the big one with pleasure.
PS:
School is over.
Nobody needs to teach you. The person learns on his own. If you don't do it, they won't pull you.

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mipan, 2016-10-24
@mipan

Foreign company/customers and

failed due to English
slightly mismatched.
It seems that Epam has a school in St. Petersburg.

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