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Oleg Batishchev2012-07-30 11:44:00
Electronic accounting
Oleg Batishchev, 2012-07-30 11:44:00

I want to start a business, help with the choice of electronic accounting

Hello
, I want to open an online store with an LLC
, but I don’t know how to keep accounts, I don’t know the subtleties, I want to do everything in electronic accounting Elba or MoeDelo. Or is it still better to hire an incoming accountant? But in that case, if he leaves forever, then I will lose a lot. Or there is an option for both electronic accounting and an accountant for convenience and the possibility of verification. Who will advise what or can throw other services that are more functional.

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un1t, 2012-07-30
@un1t

I have been using Elba for a year now as an individual entrepreneur.
Advantages - everything is simple, you do not need to delve into the intricacies of the legislation yourself.
Disadvantages. Once, the wrong details were entered in the documents for paying insurance premiums (it seems that there was an incorrect KDK), I had to look for it myself. There was also a jamb when Elba told me that I could pay taxes until January 10th. I went on January 3rd and found that not a single bank was open until January 10th. holidays. Another disadvantage for me is the price, I need to create only one act and one account per month, pay 400 rubles for this, it’s expensive. So now I pay only when I need to pay taxes.
In Elba, at a rate of 500 rubles, you can still consult with an accountant.
In general, I am satisfied with Elba.
I can't say anything about My Business.

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ZloiZmei, 2012-07-30
@ZloiZmei

Electronic bookkeeping will not replace an accountant. It only partially automates any boring thing, but the amount of work is not greatly reduced.
My business, elba, is their main function to draw documents. For an online store, it is much easier and more convenient to do it using the store's CMS! Those. half of the features you just don't need. You can see what and when to take, you can consult, for example, at the clerk . Over time, hire an accountant or outsource it.
I use "my business", but I'm missing a lot. Financial module for example. Or document templates, convenient filters. Several times I came across jambs when, according to logic and legislation, something needs to be done, but their interface does not allow it. I have not used electronic reporting yet - but for an LLC it will be more relevant. Try how convenient these systems will be for you, how many functions will be in demand.
Financial accounting in excel, you have to check with "My business". An alternative is to install 1C, which I think about from time to time.

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Alexey Sundukov, 2012-07-30
@alekciy

Neither Elba nor MoeDelo will relieve you of the responsibility for doing business and the need for at least a superficial knowledge of accounting and legislation. In the regulatory authorities, the excuse that "it's not me, it's that service" will not work. With a hired accountant, the situation is similar, but there is a contract with him, job duties, and in case of his mistakes, this will remove personal responsibility from you.
In general, I would advise you to use any of the named services for yourself, delve into these things as far as possible and hire an accountant.

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bdmalex, 2012-07-30
@bdmalex

There are also specialized firms, in my opinion, they should not be excluded from consideration either.

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ixSci, 2012-07-30
@ixSci

I use my business. Everything suits me. I also did not understand anything (now a little better) in accounting

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Alexander, 2012-07-30
@Alexx_ps

I use my business. I like everything, but recently they had some kind of jamb in the database, because of which they had to manually shovel and compare all payment documents for several quarters with My Case.
Here is my letter to support:

I began to calculate the tax for the IV quarter of 2011 and generate a declaration for 2011 - it showed that for this year the tax was paid only once, although this is not the case and the service displayed everything correctly during the last tax payment.
I looked through the entire history and found that some budget payments were reset for the reporting period MS 01 2001 (my IP was registered in 2008).
I brought all the reset payments into line with the data from the Client-Bank, but the service still refuses to take them into account in the declaration (see screenshot 1).
There is a similar problem with payments to the Pension Fund for the fourth quarter. The period in them was indicated correctly - DG 00 2011, but for some reason they are not taken into account in the declaration (see screenshot 2).

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albelen, 2017-09-24
@albelen

Tell me what is cloud accounting?

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8SRGXY0ra0sIZPR, 2017-09-25
@8SRGXY0ra0sIZPR

Cloud accounting is a new round of accounting) If you try, you will immediately keep it the only way) I speak from my experience, because I also rented the 1c arenda-it.ru cloud at one time and everyone now only works this way) Convenient, there is always access, a single information space, which is very important for the company)

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