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Aw552016-12-14 22:43:08
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Aw55, 2016-12-14 22:43:08

How to learn something new after a working day?

Hello, a question about how to remain capable after work.
In general, the story is quite trivial, the question arose of finding a job, since my skills are small, it was hard to find a job, so I went to a small organization and for a low salary, so to speak, for food and for experience.
The plan was this: I work and study at home, study the web, develop my own small applications, accumulate a portfolio and experience.
However, it turns out that after 9 hours of work + 2 hours on the road, my head simply cannot concentrate and start developing, since I have been reading and writing code for 8-9 hours, and my eyes can no longer look at the monitor.
It turns out the already small amount of free time that remains, I can’t use it in any way. And I'm not talking about such things as sports, learning languages, and at least fiction.
It seems to me that if I don’t study at home, then I simply won’t be able to change my job to a more interesting and highly paid one, I won’t be able to create something that, it seems to me, could benefit people.
Share your advice, please, how do you manage (and do you manage) to do mental work after a working day? How do you organize yourself, how do you motivate? How to gain the necessary skill, because skills require constant training and a lot of time.
PS. Although I am engaged in development, it is rather a "finishing" of an already finished product and brings little development experience as such.
Thank you for your advice.

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Dmitry, 2016-12-15
@EvilsInterrupt

1. 9 o'clock. This is already a mistake. The Labor Code was not written by fools. 8 hours is enough for work if a person does not drink tea
2. Review the work process. When you get to work, do the most important things first. Please read carefully: first important, and only then urgent and others. The difference between important and urgent ones is that some, as a rule, are done one-time and forgotten about, while others, although not urgent, have a strategic effect.
3. Take time to think about a "bright future", i.e. create\update a list of strategic goals and objectives
4. Do exercises in the morning. Stretching, push-ups, squats. This affects the energy in the body
5. Take breaks during work.
6. Drink more water
7. Go in for sports. I have tried it on my own skin and I clearly know that before swimming I did less than now
8. Surround yourself with those who aspire somewhere. This does not mean that all others should be sent to South America on Lake. Nahoy. This means that you need to communicate more with one type of person and less with another
9. Strive to work for the result, and not counting "butt hours". In the future, ask the employer at the interview the question "Do you need ass-hours or results?". Try to spot the bugs. If you suddenly managed not in 5, but in 4 hours, and the employer is stingy and afraid to allocate time for employee self-training, although the same knowledge will be applied in solving work tasks, then leave such an employer!
Despite the fact that there is a temptation to read another chapter in the book or to program something to the detriment of sports, you should not do this! Sport enriches with energy! With him, a lot of things develop. For example, endurance and muscles develop from physical qualities, and among psychological qualities, stress resistance and perseverance.
It's better to hang out after work. The brain needs to rest. That is, to engage in structuring, processing what happened during the day.
Try to avoid jerky work. Everything must be stable. Let even small pieces of work, but stable and trouble-free!

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Peter, 2016-12-14
@petermzg

So learn new things before the start of the working day. Get up early, learn what you need, then go to work, and after work rest.

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Yarrs, 2016-12-17
@Yarrs

Hello, I'll also throw in five cents.
First, ask yourself what you want and what you need. This is where you need to start.
We do something not just like that, but for the sake of something. Ask yourself simple questions: who are you, where are you, what are your goals and purpose. Programming itself sucks, but it's a good place to start. Once upon a time in the 80s, I was overwhelmed with delight when I was able to understand the meaning of a=a+1 in the third grade. But since then, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge. Find out what you really want to do. What is your real goal, to earn money, to grow up in society, to raise children, to live an interesting life. As a rule, in life it will not work out to get everything, time is a resource that can be used either there, or there, or somewhere else. Always do it wisely.
When you understand what you need, make a list of goals, goals are not something permanent, but quite dynamic and constantly changing, we are changing, the world is changing. Follow your goals. Remember one good principle - take it for yourself first. Work well, you are better. How and where to take your case. There are different ways. I'll write some specifics below. Every day you need to be aware of your list of goals and take it into account in the current day. Set yourself tasks for the day and assign the most important. If you have not completed this task, consider that the day is unsuccessful. Set aside 15 minutes each day in the evening and review the day. This, along with understanding your values ​​and goals, is the most important thing.
Now some specifics.
There are a lot of options to split off time for yourself.
1) Rent a room near your work.
2) Get up early. go to bed earlier
3) Fatigue is fatigue from a similar type of activity. Fatigue can be easily overcome if you do something else. Mentally/physically for example switches be healthy.
4) Dedicate the first hour at work only to learning. Usually people spend the first hour on cats, chats and other things, don't be like everyone else.
5) Talk to your boss and say that you need to develop and learn. Look at the reaction. If he is not a monster, the issue can be resolved.
6) Always think before you act. Solutions exist, often not on the surface.
Now for some bad advice. How to live and work.
1) If you decide to connect your life with programming, you should understand that those who have money pay, and they pay as much as they are willing to pay. Hence the conclusions. Narrow specialists who work with something rare and necessary for those who have money get more. By working for the poor you will earn exactly a little more than thanks. It's like doctors, dentists, who are visited by well-fed burghers with a toothache on horseback, some traumatologist / surgeon have 90 percent of their usual clientele of homeless people and rogues. But 10 percent come across people with money. But the anesthesiologist generally does not work with the clientele, he does not receive additional money at all. Hence the abundance of medical jokes about poor anesthesiologists.
2) Owners and people interested in business do not pay just like that, but pay for solving problems. The more terrible the problem at first glance, the more money you can ask for it. Complex problems are solved by breaking them down into smaller problems. But you should not overestimate your strength either. If you did something cool, you don't have to be modest. You will be evaluated, including by how much you ask.
3) The previous point has a small corollary. The owner has the main decision and deadlines, he doesn’t care about the beauty of the code and other stupid perfectionism.
4) The best place to work for getting starter experience is some kind of programmer's office, but it's also the worst in terms of growth. You are surrounded by people of about your level and abilities, who will inevitably squabble for a place in the sun, each of your bosses will perceive you as a threat to their place. Breaking into such a system is difficult. In addition, it is necessary to work on the first link in the food chain. While the linear programmer gets something from the base rate, 10 people will be pinched off along the chain.
5) If you work in an ordinary office, try to reach out with your ideas to the head of the business (general director), he is the only one who is interested in the project as a whole, and can perceive something from your thoughts personally. The people below will just try to use you for their own purposes.
6) People, when viewed over blah blah blah, always act in their own interests, but only as they themselves understand them. People can be predicted and read.
7) Leaders load those horses that are pulled. The ideal worker is one who asks for little and works a lot. Promotions? Did not hear. Why promote someone who is good in his place.
8) Only those who go beyond the flags achieve something. There is a pen for the herd, where it will always be boring, ordinary and rotten, but you can live, there are other opportunities.
9) The most stupid mistake people make is to believe that if you work well and for a long time, something will change. Nothing will change.
Well, enough in general, something I got carried away, always think with your head, that's my advice.
PS: I forgot to add. Be sure to get out of the provinces in Moscow Peter, better in Moscow. Then you can both stay and move on. If age and other things allow.

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Andrey, 2016-12-14
@f-end

Work for a year, at least, so that at the next job you can show at least a year of experience. In your free time, if there is not much of it, it is better to study some basic things, theory. It is better to try to get practice at work, offering and justifying to the authorities some things that will contribute to development. This does not always work, but a lot and not necessarily. It won't make much sense anyway.
In a year, start going to interviews. Are you afraid of the requirements in the job description? When I read the requirements at work, where I work now, I ask myself the question "who wrote this nonsense? And why the hell is this all that is written there?". And all because they write the texts of HRs from the words "someone from the department" said several years ago.
In reality, according to my observations, we can refuse a fairly strong developer because it’s just that the vacancy is not burning at the moment, and sometimes, when the department is overwhelmed with work, we take quite average ones, simply because we urgently need it. A similar situation was in the previous work. Therefore, my personal opinion is that in order to get a job you need to have not only and not so much the skills listed in the vacancy, but rather respond at the right time :) Well, of course, you need to know something.
And most importantly: two or three months of work in a company with a higher level of development than you currently have will give you more than a year of sleepless nights after work. Therefore, you should not try to grow to a certain level first, and then settle down. Most likely you will not grow up, you will only lose time. Explore the base and go to battle!

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x67, 2016-12-14
@x67

As an option, neglect the professional attitude to work or something .. And right there, in the morning, while the pot is boiling, dedicate an hour and a half to something new. Yes, ugly.. But hiring a person for bread and food for a 9-hour day, they act even less beautifully. This will not justify you, just each side will try to be more selfish.

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sim3x, 2016-12-15
@sim3x

0. Start monitoring your condition - understand when you are at the peak of your ability to work
1. Prioritize - study or work
2. Learn to sleep a little
3. Learn to sleep for 30 minutes to separate between study and work
4. Get used to the idea that this is a long time (forever), those motivations have nothing to do with it.
Your new schedule is your new lifestyle
5. Go in for sports to improve circulation
6. Learn techniques to improve memory

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Aw55, 2016-12-15
@Aw55

Comrades, thank you very much. I've read and been happy to read so many different (albeit with something in common) approaches that are very sensible. In order to somehow put together what you proposed, I highlighted the main ideas, I'm sure that someone else might come in handy.
I will try to apply all these methods and choose the ones that turned out to be the most suitable for me.
On my own behalf, I’ll add that I made (and I’m laying a little) attempts to streamline everything, create a schedule and to-do lists, and plans for different durations at the moment have not led to anything significant, but only a clogged inbox and frustration about how much is needed. And after all except for it is necessary to eat also "it would be desirable". Here's a good discussion , by the way .
I partly agree ivkol and, at least for me, there is some limit to the assimilation of new knowledge. At such moments, I often didn’t give myself a break - I didn’t allow myself to rest, and often the brain simply refused to work, fell into energy saving mode and, at best, read some not very useful article, or even a VK feed. After that, you go to bed quietly hating yourself for not resting, not working, and in general it is not clear why you live. Learning to rest, it turns out, is also not easy and this needs to be learned.
A lot of other questions and problems follow from the topic of training (for example, information filtering), but this is a separate topic for discussion. Thank you all again.

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svilkov87, 2016-12-17
@svilkov87

Hello!
How do I know your situation?
I've been through this myself. And here's how.
Basic work - 10 hours.
The road to the house + dinner and at least 5 minutes to rest - 2 hours 05 minutes.
And at home the family is a wife and a daughter.
It was difficult for me to understand and absorb the material .... very difficult. Everything is new and unfamiliar.
From the feeling of this thought, it became morally difficult, and this all affected physical fatigue.
At first, I worked out until 1-2 at night and it was the most difficult thing to accustom myself to such a regimen.
BUT! I will tell you honestly and frankly - as soon as you have some experience (more than now), you will immediately feel much better, I guarantee it!
Today I do much less, but still every day.
And at the same time I solve problems much more.
I can advise on the basis of my own experience:
1. Do not despair;
2. Try to do small and not difficult tasks first;
3. Success (even small) - generates new success and fills with optimism;
4. Schedule tasks for the next day. For example: tomorrow I'll start this and finish that...
5. Feel free to ask questions on the forums (example here);
I wish you good luck! You will succeed, you will see!

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Godless, 2017-01-10
@Godless

I can’t wait, and I’ll also put in my word. I risk being a CEP in some places, but you asked for an opinion... and in a nutshell, ADollar said well.
As you can see, there are a ton of options to learn. But let's digress from that for now.
The first thing I want to notice in the reasoning is uncertainty. Not knowing something is okay.
How old are you? Experience for that and experience that does not come immediately, but over time.
It is also important that any failures are also an experience. You don't need to file them. You need to find out why everything went wrong and fix it next time. These fails always accompany emotions of varying degrees of intensity - let them out, that's fine. And analyze later.
We slowly came to the conclusion that time is an important resource in our life. I suspect that you don’t have a family and children yet, which means that you yourself are free to dispose of every minute of your life. DO ALL YOU CAN. IN GENERAL EVERYTHING.
Sports or any hobby with physical activity. Hiking, fishing, DozoR, Encounter is a necessary part to maintain the body. I'm not a doctor, but a life without exercise is bad.
Do not spend 18 hours a day at a computer or monitor screen. The reason is that you have a PC-related job. Inextricably. If you spend a lot in front of monitors, then no matter how much you like it, it will get boring in six months, a year, two. Depending on your patience.
Read articles, books, communicate with colleagues. The fact is that without a structured theory in the head, it is difficult to competently build reasoning, speech, and, most importantly, practice.
DO . Find a hobby. Smart House. Just some electronics. Linux programming. Writing drivers. And under Linux too.
Or set a goal - I want a website, I want an app for a car, so that I can reset errors using the Chinese OBD adapter in the on-board PC. There are also options above. It really doesn't matter where you start. Let it be a trifle, but FINISH it. Feel free to repeat. Those. we took some kind of program, and we write its clone. Try to choose things that interest you. For example, if you like to run, try making a small bluetooth heart rate monitor. Love fishing - make a program that averages the forecast for coordinates from different sources. choose interesting and useful ideas.
Learn to save your time. If you have a minute at work while agreeing on changes in paperwork or a long rebuild is underway, go about your business. This does not mean that you can not have fun, on the contrary. But instead of looking at home, you can also read a book...
If you fail, try again. Persistence will help you enjoy success, no matter how small.
There is no ready-made solution to how to become a superman. I do not know unfortunately or fortunately, but it is not.
Without your enthusiasm, diligence and consistency, nothing will work. You also need to have a certain amount of indifference in relation to the opinions of others. Most of them masterfully wield only a finger in their nose - let these pass by your ears, do your own thing.
Do you think you don't know anything? The more you know, the more you know nothing. Unfortunately, now there is so much information that it is impossible to become a superman in a year. Just in a year there will be 10 more new technologies. You have to choose the subject area of ​​interest and interesting technologies.
Sooner or later, the lyrics will end and you will want to eat. Or the jeans are torn. Or you want a different phone.
Choose areas of development that help you earn. An ideal option when a hobby feeds a family. But it's probably 1 in a million. More often there is work that brings loot and an outlet in a small project that brings joy and pride.
And remember about time. You won’t have time to look back, as the son went to school ... Or the daughter to the university ...
PS: But when a family and children, an apartment and repairs appear, then you will understand that there really is no time =)
ZYY: And yes, Welcome to real life ;-)

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ivkol, 2016-12-15
@ivkol

no way. limit has been reached.

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Jony1337, 2016-12-15
@Jony1337

0. Come home and sleep for 1-2 hours.
1. After that, take a shower to wake up.
2. On the first day of this regimen, you will be pulled into sleep but do not need to sleep.
3. Practice 1-2 hours. it won't make any more sense.
4. After 2-3 weeks you will already get used to this regimen.
ps1. In other answers there is about sports + I support them.
ps2. You must have a strong motivation, if you can maintain it, everything will work out.
Good luck to you !

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Max, 2016-12-14
@MaxDukov

I had a similar experience - I stupidly stayed at work for an hour and a half. While the brains are still cooking. Plus, in transport, time can be spent with benefit - at least they will tighten the language. This is how I read profile articles in English - but for this some kind of basis is needed.

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big_hasan, 2016-12-15
@big_hasan

As I understand it, you are not engaged in activities that are particularly useful for you at work? Then I would advise you to change jobs. If possible, go to a place where the work will be connected exactly with what you want to do, that is, you will study at work, get the necessary skills (albeit for an even lower salary and eating so that you don’t die of hunger - I exaggerate). Or try to find a job where there will be a lot of free time to do your own thing. It seems like a bit too drastic, but if it doesn't really work, then it's worth a try.

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Ivanko63rus, 2016-12-16
@Ivanko63rus

I will share my observations:
it’s hard for me personally to do self-study in the evening, and it’s not always corny time (I have a wife and a child).
It is best to get a skill by working in a specialty, it is better to find a job where you can get real experience in the desired specialty, of course at the initial stage for a small fee (trainee / junior / novice). As you gain experience, you can either communicate with management about a pay increase due to the growth of your professional skills or go to a better paying job. As a rule, an employer accepting a person without experience (or with little experience) understands that the employee will study and some are even willing to pay for advanced training courses and / or purchase of literature, respectively, this gives training during working hours. You can relax in the evening :-)
It turned out that after 2 years of work (gained experience for a small fee) I left for a more stable and better paid job. There he continued to gain experience and from time to time self-taught, at times when there are no urgent tasks.
Now I work at the 3rd place, I get even more, I like the management and the environment even more. It is difficult to imagine a task that he could not solve in his industry.
p/s
Going in for sports (and any regular physical activity) personally helps me to be more productive and work longer (I often work in the evenings and weekends for extra money).
To restore working capacity in the evening at home - after arriving from work I take a shower and eat - on average it takes 1 hour, the shower helps well to "wash away fatigue" and just relax "meditate" without thinking about anything)))

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Maxim Korolsky, 2016-12-22
@SuperPosan

What do you want? This is the job of learning.
There are 2 chairs
here 1. Over time, you will begin to think faster and start getting nishtyaki, you will spend them on all sorts of interesting entertainment and work while drinking tea.
2. You will go crazy, you will sit for 14 hours at a PC, learn languages, commit, troll on forums and you will not need anything else, even nishtyaki.
Of course, there is a third chair:
you break down and give up this business, this happens to whiners, but this is unlikely. You seem to be striving

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index0h, 2016-12-15
@index0h

What prevents you from studying while working? I am NOT saying to bolt on your responsibilities, instead solve problems in a way that would learn from them. Pump up the skill "to solve the problem in an interesting way for you." However, do not go against common sense.

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Renat Abyasov, 2016-12-22
@Abyasov

I have two small ones, so the following regime organically lined up: at 21:00 the children go to bed, I also fish myself. At 22-23.00 my wife wakes me up and I study until 2-3 at night. Wake up at 7:00. The next evening is rest. It turns night after night. 10 hours a week out. That's enough.

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cap_nemo, 2016-12-15
@cap_nemo

Since you don't have a lot of skills, learn on the job. Not instead of work, but on it. Nobody expects miracles from you. The employer hired you, realizing that you have little experience. When solving the current problem, look for how you did it before or how you solved similar problems. What are the approaches in principle, compare them with each other. Each time you do such "R&D" you will improve yourself and benefit the organization by introducing something more effective. Over time, you will develop a certain outlook and your own methodology.
Efficiently use the time in transport - read books, listen to audiobooks.
Learn to properly distribute the load, and you will learn to relax. Take breaks for rest, exercise during breaks.

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spacy fox, 2016-12-16
@spacyfox

1. Try to start with a clear action plan: what do you want to study, in what time frame, what do you need for this, how much time per day are you willing to devote to this.
When there is a clear plan, it is easier for our brain to perceive it and the task does not seem so overwhelming.
2. Learn to get up early. When I got up at 5 in the morning, by the beginning of the working day I had already redone all household chores, and after work I devoted time to self-development with a calm soul.
3. Take breaks during working hours every hour for 15 minutes. This is important, otherwise you simply won’t be able to be productive.
In general, all the tips that have been written here are good. If you can devote at least 2 hours a day to training and turn it into a system, then I think that everything will work out for you.
The main thing is not to turn into a robot and give yourself a rest) Everything should be a pleasure!)

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Denis Akulov, 2016-12-17
@denis_akulov

A lot of good things have been listed above, so it's hard to add something of your own. I'll just describe how it was for me.
Personally, when I needed to develop, I just figured out how much I want to study something and "chopped" the task smaller (the situation allowed). I studied theory on the train, and spent 20 minutes practicing at home. However, it took me 2 hours one way. It did not give serious results, so I started working out on the weekend. On Friday he went to bed early, and on Saturday he woke up, had breakfast and started, setting aside the first half of the day for classes. Sometimes, if everything worked out well, however, he could study until the evening. Any attempts of others to occupy my “well, a free day” with something, I in every possible way prevented.
Of the above, I like the idea of ​​getting up early. Will have to try.

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zTrue, 2016-12-22
@zTrue

Junior needs to learn first of all by solving daily real work tasks. But for this to be effective, you need to:
1) find an interesting job (for someone like me, for example, startups and completed Internet projects are interesting, by no means studios or outsourcing)
2) find a job with a strong team (where the level of others employees are higher at least in some way), especially for the direct technical manager (they will quickly learn, even if they themselves are not aware of it).
Homeschooling is cool and great (a great addition to on-the-job training), but it's hard to travel far with homeschooling alone.

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Mikhail Kovalyshev, 2016-12-22
@nebiroz

From personal experience, I tried this option (I myself work in PHP, I decided to study Java EE for the web):
- I found a book (and then a resource) in which the theory is more or less written. Bruce Eckel's Java Philosophy book. She is quite fat, but her dignity is not in this. Its main advantage is that for each paragraph there is a list of exercises, not large, mostly from 1 to 3-4;
- googled how to make a web service in which I could publish all the exercises as I read;
- gradually began to read the paragraph every evening and solve problems for the paragraph. I publish all the solutions in a certain service (website) in order to see the result of my work.
At the moment I have overcome the barrier of more than half of the book, found a Java EE freelance on Tomcat and work in 2 directions at the same time - the main work in PHP, the additional work in Java.
Maybe it will help you somehow.
The main idea is not just to read, because after a while any book turns into just reading, the main information passes by. And the idea is to constantly practice and post the result where you can always look at your result. This is the main motivation in the future will be for you! =)

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un1t, 2016-12-24
@un1t

после 9 часов работы + 2 часа в дороге моя голова уже просто не может сконцентрироваться и заняться разработкой, так как уже 8 -9 часов читала и писала код, да и глаза уже не могут смотреть в монитор

For the first year and a half of full time, I felt about the same. After work I was like a vegetable. There was time, but there was no strength to do something. Then I found out that I need to sleep longer. Then the head cooks well until the evening and in the evening you can read or program something. Empirically found out that I need to sleep an average of 10 hours a day. If I sleep less, then I don’t have enough strength for the whole day, if I sleep more, then I can’t fall asleep in the evening.

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Oh J, 2017-01-07
@odj

sorry, my answer will seem rude to you, but I really think so.
if you don’t have an idea, but only a desire for dough, in development you will earn your average salary and will never reach another level.
better go to an accountant or 1Sniki. they make good money.

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Alexander, 2016-12-17
@kentuck1213

A similar problem, somewhere by 30% I was able to get to the truth, and solve this problem. My progress does not stand still and the percentage is growing. In 3-4 months I will try to share my experience with other residents of Tostor.
If you are intellectually tired and how do you...

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happ, 2016-12-18
@happ

Start your own project that will be interesting to you and overwork disappears on its own.
For example, I do a day of rest in which I play sports, and either do not use a computer at all, or watch films where there is a lot of action (special agents, saving the world, etc.) and get enough sleep on this day.
In any case, I wish you good luck.

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Vladimir T, 2016-12-20
@32bit_me

Work out in the morning, get up early and go to bed early. Set aside some time at work to read books.

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Vitaly Yushkevich, 2016-12-22
@yushkevichv

Hey!
What technologies are of interest? What projects do you want, where do you want to develop?
Ps not out of idle curiosity. Maybe I can offer more interesting tasks and conditions.

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ADollar, 2016-12-23
@ADollar

Purpose, motivation, rest and proper organization of your day and resources for study.

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Terenty Sinaev, 2017-01-11
@TetraSh

All this sounds, of course, very simple, as in the master classes of psychologists in famous talk shows on lublu.tv . But how to prioritize, rationally use time to do everything....

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