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Nikolay Gaevoy2018-12-03 06:44:54
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Nikolay Gaevoy, 2018-12-03 06:44:54

How to get a normal job in such a situation?

I am a web programmer here is a short list of my skills:

  1. Layout and related technologies.
  2. Server side (PHP).
  3. Familiar with laravel and wordpress, the latter predominates.
  4. Other auxiliary things (gulp, sass, etc.)

I know all the technologies mentioned above quite well (with the possible exception of only point 3, since I have not yet filled my hand). And now let's get to the heart of the problem: I'm 17 and I don't know what to do next.
They will hardly be hired for full-time work (the army and time limits for 16-17 year olds). There are no funds to study at a university, but in colleges I am saddened by the "level" of education (I study at the best college in my region, I know what I'm talking about). Another option is freelancing, but it is becoming more difficult with development, the competition is great, the number of performers may still increase. There remains self-development, but I myself have been developing for quite a long time without exhaustion (if this continues, I will simply burn out).
Summing up: I ask you to tell me how you would have acted in such a situation.
PS I apologize for possible errors and confusion of writing (did not know how to formulate thoughts).
PPS also has a portfolio.

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Dasha Tsiklauri, 2018-12-03
@kolya1236

so you yourself adequately assessed the situation and there are few conclusions here, one of them is to survive this hole
1) if you go freelancing, then be psychologically prepared to search for the first orders (may be long)
2) if you get a remote job, be ready to lie about your age (say 18-19) and experience (say a year you write something for yourself), no one will check anyway, don’t get impudent and get a junior
, unfortunately in these two points you will have to come to terms with the fact that what you want is not always possible here and now .
It is clear that I want to choose the best path in terms of development speed + finance + an interesting area, but, unfortunately, with your introductory options, there are few. Whether it's freelancing or remote work - do not choose full time, leave time for learning related languages ​​and additional. information and recreation. Good luck in your search, hopefully you will succeed!

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uRoot, 2018-12-03
@uroot

Eh ... where are my 17 years old ...
Of course, I don’t know how it is with anyone, but isn’t it too early to go to work at 17 years old? After all, this is a carefree period of student life! You don't think about anything, you don't care about anything. It just seems to me that if you go to work at 17, and even into the IT sphere, then at 25-30 you can already become a moral old man.
If I were Nikolai Gaevoy , I would have worked as a freelancer and have not yet thought about a career in IT, and just enjoyed my youth.

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Dmitry Dart, 2018-12-03
@gobananas

You have a lot of fears about freelancing and BUT in your head. Try to persistently find a customer and after you find - show responsibility - the main quality that freelancers lack. Customers are sometimes quite big companies and count on long-term cooperation. And there it will already go, experience, a full hand, remote experience.

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stratosmi, 2018-12-03
@stratosmi

They will hardly be hired for full-time work (the army and time limits for 16-17 year olds).

The company needs profit. Not sometime in a year, when you go to the army.
And right now.
Will be happy to take at least a year.
The company needs at least some profit - they will be happy to work part-time.
If you really think.
It does not matter for the vast majority of programmers - a university is not needed.
Do not boil only in your own juice.
For development, you need to work in a good company offline (not remotely)

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MasterMike, 2018-12-04
@MasterMike

You managed to describe your whole life in one sentence)
I'm 17 and I don't know what to do next.
I'm 25 and I don't know what to do next.
I'm 40 and I don't know what to do next.
Me...
Life goes by while we make plans.
And freelancing with a minimum amount of skills and experience, in my opinion, is still too early.
Freelancing for juniors and freelancing for seniors are two different freelances.
ps Learn English. Learn math. Learn Russian, after all. This knowledge is fundamental, it is studied once and for life (unlike web technologies), and then there may not be time for these subjects.
pps How will you be engaged in programming, in which self-development is the cornerstone? )

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abbaboka, 2018-12-04
@abbaboka

See what the goal is.
If you cut down the dough quickly - anywhere, how you want to get settled.
If you become a pro - get a full-time job in a company with experienced colleagues. At first, they will only take you to Sharashkin's office. But as you gain experience - in more and more interesting firms.
Colleagues should be more qualified than you, not where you are the coolest (or the same as everyone else).
Freelancing on your own early on is a serious lag in becoming a pro.

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iliyaisd, 2018-12-13
@iliyaisd

I don’t really understand the problem, do you live in Russia? It seemed to me that higher education in Russia is free, no? If so, why don't you have funds? Enter any university where you can enter, if you can’t enter Bauman, then enter some Muhosran polytechnic where you can ... Get a deferment from the army, and start sending resumes to all companies, right on the list on HH and Moykrug. If there really is a legislative time limit for minors, then somewhere it will be possible to work part-time during the year (you can set a filter). Somewhere there will be an opportunity to work in a black year.
I once started working as a green jun with about your level and profile in this company: remote work, it was possible (it was) to work in the black on full time, the development is more than serious. You need any similar company.
I strongly advise you not to start with freelancing. If possible, avoid this until you gain at least the first 3 years of experience.

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Akim Glushkov, 2018-12-03
@mikaakim

Improve skills that are worth spending time on.
As I understand, you don't have a budget at the university, do you?
The most profitable option is not to throw the last money, strength, time for something that will not bring money now. Before reaching full capacity, you can earn extra money in other jobs. Study, enter a university on a budget or self-educate and get a job in companies, but growth in this case depends on your abilities, luck and company)

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Puma Thailand, 2018-12-03
@opium

You look at vacancies, you interview, you get a job and work.

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