How to force Rostelecom to extend optics to a cottage village?

Question

Computer networks

Hello.
Recently moved to live in a newly built house in a new cottage village. Since it is directly related to it, there was an urgent need for a normal Internet.
Actually, now I have to use Yota, but it disappoints more and more. Unstable signal, insufficient speed, gray ip, rather high rates and other delights. And after 2 months of torment, it became clear that it was no longer possible to live like this.
Began to explore the market for the availability of providers operating in the region. It turned out that there are only two of them: i-like and Rostelecom.
Of course, first of all, I turned to i-like. This is a small but interesting local provider. Gives excellent 100 megabits for a penny (recently they seem to have removed the speed limits altogether. Like, take as much as you can take). But as it turned out, the nearest connection point to them is located just on the outskirts of the city, and it is economically unprofitable for them to pull 8 km of optics at their own expense for the sake of connecting even 20 clients (the village is just being built, and not many people need normal Internet).
Actually, I got advice from them to turn to Rostelecom. It seems like they have their optical network in a neighboring large village (1 km from the house), to which i-like, of course, cannot connect.
I called the technical support of Rostelecom. I listen to their IVR for half an hour (I would kill, honestly). Finally taxiing to the operator.
- Hello, I'm interested in connecting fiber optic internet in a cottage village near Kuleshovka, Lipetsk region.
- Do you have a wired telephone from us?
- Not. But what about a wired phone? I'm talking about FTTH and not adsl.
- Well, if you don't have a phone, then you won't have the Internet either. We do not connect the private sector without a telephone.
To say that I was surprised is to say nothing. After all, I recently came across a topic of a Lipetsk forum where the connection of the private sector RT via FTTH is being discussed.
Well, I think that means technical support works in its best traditions - to follow the path of least resistance, and not to meet the client. Since it didn’t work out with technical support by phone, maybe representatives of the Republic of Tatarstan in social networks will clarify the situation. I am writing to their representative in PM VK. In response, I receive only a request to provide a phone number for communication and a standard response like "A task has been formed at your request ...". As a result, from this their "task" is neither a rumor nor a spirit. In general, I'm disappointed.
But after all, there were situations when people fought with RT support for months, and then some representative from Habr resolved the situation in 15 minutes. I’m already thinking of finding some kind of habrauser and knocking on his PM. Maybe kick someone. But before that, I decided to still ask for advice from you. After all, writing a topic on Habr in this case is an obvious suicide. And here it’s quite for itself, given that the same representatives of the Republic of Tatarstan may be here.
In general, tell me, has anyone had a similar experience and is it worth trying at all?

Answer 1

Let's calculate - the cost of laying a cable is 80-100 tr per 1 km in rural areas + 30-40 tr for the cable itself (if suspended) + 20-30 tr for organizing a node in your home. It turns out 150 tr one-time payment. Great, we add here the monthly costs for renting sewer poles (monthly for 1 km in rural areas, it will turn out to be somewhere around 1.5-2 tr).
It turns out that in order to fulfill the economic justification (and it is made up for a maximum of 3 years in advance), you must pay 5,700 rubles per month! Seriously, you want to find a person with habr, who will pay for you?
Plug in a 3G modem with a normal external antenna, there are more operators than one yota. Or build a radio bridge from some neighbor who has a normal Internet (the cost of equipment is 8-10 tr + 1.5 tr for registration (if you want of course))
Yes, wired Internet from normal providers can come to you when there are 100-120 populated houses.

Answer 2

Rostelecom is such a big bureaucratic colossus. He's not interested in your 20 people. He is not interested in anything at all. You need to find direct sales contacts, and steer through them.
Hope that you have a lot of people there who want to connect. If you organize a small operator (become an agent of Rostelecom), then it will probably be easier for you to get through to the connection.

Answer 3

If i-like has a radio license, build a radio bridge, 8 km is not a problem for it, pump 150-200 megabits, even if you don’t have a license, you can get that much money for technolink, why do you need to deal with a company whose customers you are nafig not needed? Well, it makes no sense to bother with you, 20 people are more hemorrhoids than money, so if you don’t move yourself and don’t build transport at your own expense, you will sit on Yota. The second option is not 20 people, but at least 200 people, then maybe the provider will have something to talk about with you.

Answer 4

It makes no economic sense to connect you, hence your problems, chip in and spend this kilometer of optics yourself, thank God now it's pretty cheap compared to what it used to be

Answer 5

Didn't they refer to this operator xn--f1adxdf.xn--p1ai ?
They work with a quantity of 15 people, the speed is normal. Or you can buy a separate station for yourself and not depend on anyone.

Answer 6

We had a fiber-optic cable stretched through the village back in 2000. Only there is no sense from this after the adoption of the law on the number of connected subscribers. No matter how much they wrote to the Republic of Tatarstan, and only replies are sent to the state service for control in the field of communications. Billions of rubles were allocated for connection to the LAN. It came to the conclusion that it is easier to gather together. Today, we have 2,000 residents in the village from each house they collected money based on the formula; section length + cable length with an institution in the house + tee + (equipment if a person will use the Internet) of course, the most problems were with pensioners in order to explain to them that the money they invest is for the young for grandchildren, and what they can return if they have selling the house all this will be as another plus as electricity and gas. There were many problems and at the time of designing the village continues to develop, new houses are constantly being rented out and because of this, the cost of the work was overstated, but again, the money for connecting to our networks has already gone to pay for traffic from RT and this is another plus and no longer any investments . I'm not talking about the fact that we stopped paying money for the Internet, it's just that the payback was faster. If in the city I paid 9,000 rubles for 8 megabits for a LAN every year, then in the village this fee is only 5,000 for 100 megabits, if you wish, you can make 1 gigabit without any investment. I'm not talking about the fact that we stopped paying money for the Internet, it's just that the payback was faster. If in the city I paid 9,000 rubles for 8 megabits for a LAN every year, then in the village this fee is only 5,000 for 100 megabits, if you wish, you can make 1 gigabit without any investment. I'm not talking about the fact that we stopped paying money for the Internet, it's just that the payback was faster. If in the city I paid 9,000 rubles for 8 megabits for a LAN every year, then in the village this fee is only 5,000 for 100 megabits, if you wish, you can make 1 gigabit without any investment.

Answer 7

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