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empnew2021-12-10 23:21:55
System administration
empnew, 2021-12-10 23:21:55

How to find a remote job as a system administrator if you have no experience?

Good evening, I would like to get advice from more experienced users.
How to find a job as a system administrator in our realities.
There is a great desire to develop in this direction.
No experience as a system administrator.
But there is an approximate understanding of the tasks set by the system administrator to monitor all resources, configure everything in such a way that there is a minimum fault tolerance of all resources.
I also understand that it is not necessary to understand both the hardware and the OS badly.
I have the experience of my game server on esxi, I'm not talking about vps, but a full-fledged server. I also know that you need to know the tcp / ip network stacks, osi is not very strong in this, but there is an understanding of setting up a home network. I also have experience in iron assembly. And I think you should not focus on working with nas synology at a certain company, since almost all of them work the same way. But what is the problem with asking?
All current vacancies are required with experience of 2-3 years. I am ready to work at the minimum rate as an assistant in order to gain experience, but I don’t see such vacancies. Although I understand that some people are taken even without experience, not everyone agrees to take such a risk, since they will have to deal with a beginner. Of course, I don’t know how to make sql queries, but I also have an understanding of what a database is. I don’t see the point in listing all my knowledge or understanding of any things, because I want to hear advice and not leave my resume here))
One of the main reasons I’m looking for this job remotely, but here I understand a double-edged sword so that they won’t take it without experience, but to get it you need to go offline and gain experience. What can you advise in this situation, but I forgot to mention that there is also experience with Linux and ssh at a basic level.
In general, I'm waiting for an answer and options for a way out of this situation.

Ps I thought to choose the devops direction, but everything is much more complicated there, I need a good experience in the system administrator while I'm studying docker, but I already learned git)

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Saboteur, 2021-12-11
@empnew

To begin with, I read not only the question but also your comments on other answers, and therefore, yes, you have problems with evaluating yourself and your own knowledge and understanding of what you want to receive.
Maybe you wanted a "do this and that and get settled" answer.
But in life, things are a little more complicated than they seem, although simpler than some people think.
For example, if you don't like the answer, you don't have to be angry with him. We must try to understand it.
Especially if many people answer you in this spirit, then your vision and expectation are basically wrong, and you need to change the whole approach.

How to find a job as a system administrator in our realities.

It's simple - you look for vacancies, you find a job.
If it doesn't work out, it means that you have little knowledge or your stack did not fit this position (but did you read the requirements in the vacancy beforehand?)
In different companies, admins do different things.
In some small company, it’s just to order new hardware in an online store, wait until the accounting department pays, get the hardware, assemble (if you bought it not assembled), install software, add it to the network and periodically change keyboards, mice, connect devices with patch cords.
In another, this can also be added to the setting of the only router in the organization.
But you can deal with such things on your own - there are advanced users among accountants and among managers and other employees. They have children, friends, nephews from IT people, and many stores provide the service of assembling and installing OEM Windows right away, just plug it into the outlet and that's it.
Therefore, often a novice system administrator is not needed at all for a piece of the rate - small companies save on everything, including employees.
And if you need an admin, then it’s more reliable to hire an experienced incoming admin who, for the same amount, will provide, albeit once a month, but quality service, but you will be sure that a reliable computer was bought and everything is set up correctly and such a system administrator will know about various problems with licenses in advance he will discuss everything with the accounting department, and in the router he will not forget to change the default password so that they do not get hacked.
Where a full-time sysadmin is needed, more knowledge is needed.
There is a great desire to develop in this direction. There is no experience as a system administrator.

If there is a desire, then sooner or later something can be found. A part-time job at a school / institute - in general, wherever there are LANs, so that you can add something more official to your resume than a home LAN.
It’s just that commercial experience shows the employer that you did useful work somewhere, and apparently you were responsible and qualified enough for this.
But there is an approximate understanding of the tasks set by the system administrator to monitor all resources, configure everything in such a way that there is a minimum fault tolerance of all resources.

These are very general words. Here we have no idea how good your understanding and tasks are and how much you generally have skills in working with software.
I have the experience of my game server on esxi, I'm not talking about vps, but a full-fledged server.

You are contradicting yourself with this sentence. It is not clear why VPS is not a full-fledged server - now almost everyone lives on VPS.
Again, game servers are different.
For example, I had experience with several game servers. And the experience of working with them can be compared with a very strong experience and development and support in a commercial organization.
Or you could just put minecraft on your home computer without a virtual machine - and also the "game server experience", while practically zero technical.
That is, your wording does not mean anything (well, except that you created a virtual machine in esxi, but it can also be create-next-done according to instructions on the internet)
I also know that you need to know the tcp / ip network stacks, osi is not very strong in this, but there is an understanding of setting up a home network.

Home network - in the modern concept is raised by a blonde. I bought a router, connected the wires, everything started up by itself. As a last resort, I called tech support, they prompted.
Again, your phrase does not give an understanding of what you have. Understanding OSI is needed more for architecture planning and troubleshooting.
I also have experience in iron assembly. And I think you should not focus on working with nas synology at a certain company, since almost all of them work the same way. But what is the problem with asking?

Okay, iron assembly and remote don't mix. Nas synology is also configured by an ordinary user, not even an advanced one - they are so simple for this and they make it that a system administrator is not needed for this.
All current vacancies are required with experience of 2-3 years.

As I already wrote, there are no full-time jobs in most small offices.
Employees will cope with simple tasks on their own, or they will invite friends / children / nephews for a small bonus or tea with cookies.
The situation in the world has evolved greatly over the past 20 years. If 20 years ago just installing Windows for an ordinary user was a difficult quest, now almost any OS is installed easily (next-next-done).
No need to compile software for Linux, no need to install all the drivers by hand under Windows 95 with constant blue screens. A lot, a lot of things are now user-friendly compared to the past.
Therefore, the non-sysadmin-enikeyschik is an extremely rare species.
I am ready to work at the minimum rate as an assistant in order to gain experience, but I don’t see such vacancies. Although I understand that some people are taken even without experience, not everyone agrees to take such a risk, since they will have to deal with a beginner.

The minimum bet is not an advantage. Come on, seriously. I need to re-paste the wallpaper at home. And there is a stranger on the Internet who says - I will do it very cheaply, for a penny, but I have no experience at all. Will you hire? Or do you still scrape together and hire an experienced one? Or you can even do it yourself, because letting an unknown person into your home, you never know what he will do there without experience. It will stick crookedly (it will ruin the materials), it will shit in your toilet, walk on the floor in dirty shoes, in general, in principle, other people's smells. And the fuck is this?
An unfamiliar inexperienced person should be allowed into the holy of holies, where the administrator is, in theory, the one who has access to everything, both to documents and to clients and in general.
Of course, I don’t know how to make sql queries, but I also have an understanding of what a database is. I don’t see the point in listing all my knowledge or understanding of any things, because I want to hear advice and not leave my resume here))

Well, there is only one advice - improve your skills, look further. There is no magic wand.
The same sql queries are such a simple thing that the simplest sql queries are taught to type in any university. How can a person who considers himself a novice system administrator not know how? Nonsense.
Understanding what a database is - well, it's enough to read 1 paragraph on Wikipedia. From the system administrator, at least the skills of backup, recovery, and simple troubleshooting are required.
One of the main reasons I am looking for this job remotely, but here I understand that they won’t hire without experience, and in order to get it, you need to go offline and gain experience.

The point is practical knowledge.
2-3 years of commercial experience is, first of all, an indicator that you have finally learned something useful for working as a system administrator.
In the modern IT world, there is no longer just an abstract "computer", but many professions that are no longer particularly compatible with each other.
Therefore, it is difficult to assess what exactly to learn without work experience.
But having worked in a large organization with a developed infrastructure, without even dealing with technical tasks, you can roughly understand what has been done, with what tools and, most importantly, why.
In addition, motivation and psychology. Force yourself to regularly (if not every day, but spend many hours a week) to engage in various technical tasks, and do this not for a shock week, but for years.
It doesn’t even matter what age it is - a teenager, a young man or an adult - this is a purely personal characteristic, when you motivate yourself and do work, and do not look for magical courses where you are told how to pull yourself together and start doing something.
That is why experience is required as the easiest way to confirm knowledge before the interview.
What can you advise in this situation

If you can't find a job, study on your own.
Without experience, they will also take it if you really have knowledge and you can confirm it at an interview and a trial period.
This is difficult to do, but everything is in your hands.
I forgot to mention that there is also experience with Linux and ssh at a basic level.

What do these words mean?
For me, they mean that you know Linux and ssh very poorly, because ... well, it's trite, let's ask about ssh. How is the ssh hosts key used? Did you set up reverse port forwarding via ssh?
Or wait, I certainly guess that you mixed up the words and wanted to say Linux and shell.
But it is precisely such reservations that imply that your knowledge is most likely insufficient even for work as an intern.
Ps I thought to choose the devops direction, but everything is much more complicated there, I need a good experience in the system administrator while I'm studying docker, but I already learned git)

Don't get into DevOps at all.
DevOps is already a way FROM a system administrator or FROM a developer or FROM a tester. But the first profession of DevOps - it sounds crazy. DevOps in a project is needed when the project is already complex. So complex that it takes an individual with a specific set of skills. A DevOps junior is often a mid or even a senior in another area.
Learned in git - again words, words... How do you use it? Is there something on the github or in the local turnip? Or did you just read something, tried something, but didn't even find how to use git in your own day-to-day tasks?
In general, something like this. Look at things more seriously and broader and evaluate your knowledge more objectively. From how you formulate your thoughts - and there is an attitude towards you and your questions.

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Jacen11, 2021-12-11
@Jacen11

here, read what you wrote

have experience in hardware assembly

I am looking for this position remotely
how are you going to assemble this iron remotely? now nobody needs your plus
an approximate understanding of the tasks set by the system administrator to monitor all resources, configure everything in such a way that there is a minimum fault tolerance of all resources
Well, it's certainly good that you know that you need to do everything well, but how do you know?
Of course, I don't know how to write sql queries.
but it’s unlikely, because this is elementary, but the admin needs to understand backup, update, import, export of the database, this knowledge is deeper than making queries and shedavral "understanding what a database is". By the way, I am sure that you have almost no understanding.
I am ready to work at the minimum wage
the problem is that you will even cause losses, which means that no one needs you
One of the main reasons I am looking for this job is remotely, but there is a double-edged sword
reasons for what? did you understand what you wanted to say?
but already learned git)
oh what is there to learn? superficially mastered in half an hour, you don’t know the details for sure
What can you advise in this situation
learn enough to be considered trained and ready for work. And I'm not only talking about professional skills, you can overwrite as much as you like about the "non-joyful" language, but the text is terrible. Logical inconsistencies, errors of all kinds, etc. Do you understand that remote communication is most often in writing? it happened quite a lot of correspondence even without a remote location. You have some kind of stream of consciousness, not related text

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nApoBo3, 2021-12-11
@nApoBo3

IMHO no way. I can hardly imagine an employer who will hire a person who does not have basic knowledge in the chosen direction.
Offline, helpdesk, assistant system administrator, there is work with both feet and hands.

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Drno, 2021-12-11
@Drno

Based on the comments ...
So the first advice was given - write correctly. You don't even put commas...
Yes, and with such a variant of aggression it will be difficult to communicate with boos and managers)))
My personal advice is this - or is it the 1st line of those software on the phone, in any provider\yandex\ip telephony, etc... There are enough such companies
Or, which will be much more useful, look for a company that provides services to legal entities and hires newcomers / assistants. There, part of the work will be in the office, part on the road with clients. There you will be taught the basics.
I don’t think that anyone will agree to take a person remotely without work experience and without knowledge .... because you will have 100,500 questions on all possible topics, you’ll get sick of the phone))) Just because you don’t have the experience of a system administrator and those support.

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Puma Thailand, 2021-12-11
@opium

Read two books on Linux and get settled as if you have experience

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CityCat4, 2021-12-11
@CityCat4

Hmm... It's been a while since I've read such a stream of consciousness...
Remote admin, dude, is impossible. It's just not possible, physically. It's like having sex with a fax machine :) The admin (especially in small offices) is a multi-armed many-legged one who pulls wires, repairs mice, printers and kettles and sets up mobile phones for accountants :) In general, "a man in the house." But this is all you need to know. How do you imagine the work of an administrator remotely ?
Go to support. To a large provider, on the first line - they will take it. Everyone is taken there, there is no need to think with your head.

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AVKor, 2021-12-11
@AVKor

How to find a remote job as a system administrator if you have no experience?

Find a strange charitable organization that is ready to suffer losses from such an "employee".

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nmdeo, 2021-12-12
@nmdeo

Remote work will end quickly when you press the wrong button on the router without knowing how networks work and setting up network equipment is more complicated than a home router.
So far, you are only an assistant with a physical presence, and before that you should take 2-4 courses (with topics on Windows, Ethernet, “main servers and services in corporate networks”, in general about system administration) with practical tasks. Not necessarily cool paid courses, you can find something free on the Internet.
Form at least some picture of what you have to work with, practice in virtual box as varied as your knowledge allows, emulators of networks and network equipment, work with various Internet services (yes, at least register a domain and set up Yandex.Connect). Try to understand the basic parameters of iron, what is compatible with what and how to choose. You will have to compete with graduates of secondary vocational education, who have at least read and tried all this.
And only then, if there is a desire, go to spoil the nerves of the system administrators))

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@paha132

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