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Artem Morozov2017-01-11 20:48:29
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Artem Morozov, 2017-01-11 20:48:29

How to find a programmer so that he does not steal the idea?

Good afternoon, there is a TK with a description of the project. But you need to sort out a lot of programmers. But the question arises, will I not create competitors for myself during the search, revealing the idea, logic, formulas and other developments ?
How to protect yourself from theft of ideas? Is a unilateral non-disclosure agreement enough?
PS I don't want some Zuckerberg to come along and steal the idea like he stole it from the twins.

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malbaron, 2017-01-11
@malbaron

0. You're not the first smart one here. Search in search. A very common question.
You exaggerate the problem:
1. The idea is worthless. Not implemented yet.
2. A good programmer has a lot of work with good pay. The time is now. And what is important - with guaranteed payment, as opposed to theft of ideas.
3. Even if the programmer wants to steal something there, promoting the idea is a lot of effort. During this time, the programmer will lose a lot of dough (see point 2). Moreover, the loot from paragraph 2 is a sure thing. And whether the idea will be untwisted is still unclear. But it will take a lot of effort to do so. During this time, lose a lot of the right dough for a job in the main specialty.
Legal:
4. Try to patent. That's what patents are for.
5. NDA you probably heard from articles about startups in the USA. They have different laws. I don’t know the concept of “non-disclosure” in our jurisprudence. There is a "trade secret". There are a lot of descriptions of how to correctly draw up a "trade secret". A non-disclosure agreement is not enough.
Surprise:
6. And then there is copyright. The copyright will remain with the programmer. And he will be able to use his product (which is important - ready-made, in which there is no need to invest).
7. It is decided by the correct design of the fact that the programmer created the product just for you and only for you for a salary.
PS:
More serious programmers are less prone to this problem.
They have a reputation and a salary - there is no need to steal.
Beginners, especially since it is now advertised to "make money quickly in IT" - are more likely to be tempted to steal.

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Anton Filippov, 2017-01-11
@vicodin

https://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/sections/161/

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Stanislav Makarov, 2017-01-11
@Nipheris

malbaron did a great job of describing the details, but I'll try to emphasize the main idea:
Then you need minimal legal protection. Why? Yes, because you will do work that others simply cannot do due to lack of information. And this disadvantage is not that this information is closed, but that others simply will not represent the life cycle of the project and how you put it on its feet. Of course, some details will be revealed over time, but if your project and business really have value - no one will repeat it just like that, for this you will need to do a lot of work. Exactly what you should be doing.
In all organizations and projects where I participated, this was only confirmed. I knew in some detail what the project was, but I had no idea how to create at least an analogue, bring it to the market and in what direction to develop. And this is exactly what the leaders and founders of these projects knew. There was nothing to steal, behind each idea there was experience and knowledge of which I simply did not have (because I am a developer and I have the appropriate experience and knowledge).
Therefore, there is a feeling that you either do not understand your role in your big plans, or you understand, but cannot fulfill it. Therefore, look for a business share of a person with experience who will not throw you away and who knows how to break a task into subtasks. It seems that you say that you are looking for a programmer, but in fact you want just such a person, but you don’t want to take him as a share, but you want to pay him a salary. As already correctly noted, there have already been many of these. I don't think so. When I was hired, they did not ask me in what direction to develop the product and did not ask how to write it from scratch.

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sim3x, 2017-01-11
@sim3x

After the arrival of the first client, your idea goes to the trash and the fun begins.
Good ideas simultaneously come to the mind of many people.

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Egor Kazantsev, 2017-01-12
@saintbyte

The idea is not worth it, nobody needs you, just like your idea.

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FoxInSox, 2017-01-11
@FoxInSox

Is a unilateral non-disclosure agreement enough?

Certainly.

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Alexander Filippenko, 2017-01-12
@alexfilus

A very common question. Clients are very shaky over their ideas, personal data, passwords, thinking that someone needs them.
In fact, no, the freelancer or studio you apply to does not care what kind of business you have. They have their own, they are engaged in it.

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Artem Spiridonov, 2017-01-15
@customtema

The idea is worthless.
The main value in any project is the person who develops it.

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