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Igor Vasiliev2021-06-03 16:12:03
Domain name market
Igor Vasiliev, 2021-06-03 16:12:03

How to buy a domain forever?

Hello.
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Please read this matter very carefully.
This question is in no way related to the question of another author
. I don’t even know which area the question is closer to, to the legal sphere, to the industrial (brand, image and recognition), or IT-sphere. It should also be taken into account that this issue is more of an international nature, and has little to do with Russia and its legislation.

The corporate task is recognizability, ease of searching by name and by name, but there will always be those who use the name for other purposes without thinking, and now we are talking about the name (name) of the domain that the person has occupied, but the services that he provides (I don’t know the truth like, there are no forms or contacts on the site), they are not connected at all with the brand (which is not there either), not with the services themselves. Perhaps he just stumbled upon an easy-to-read and beautiful domain name by accident.
Well, I rented it. I have not heard that you can buy a domain, that is, become its owner, and the maximum lease period is 10 years.

Apparently, the latter is extended for another 10 years if the first decade expires. I understand that someone owns these domains, and I also know that most hosting providers are just a showcase, intermediaries. They don't have the weight and authority to decide these kinds of issues, as well as disputes over the removal of branded domain names from ordinary individuals. It turns out that if so, then I can "wait" when, for example, Google does not renew the domain on time, and rent it for its hosting, that is, deprive the company of the brand name specified in the domain. I'm not the owner of Google, but by renting a domain I can do whatever I want with it for the duration of the lease. I raised this issue with one person, and according to him, the company cannot do anything to me, since I rented this domain,

It seems to me that this story will drag on until the first high-profile scandal that domain owners will still resolve this issue, and domains can be bought, not rented, and other domain names that an individual has borrowed will be returned to ownership, just for fun.

QUESTION:

How to contact the OWNERS of domains, and whether there was a fact of buying and selling domains. How legal disputes are conducted on the right to withdraw the company's branded domain name from an individual.

If you know and are competent in this matter, please write in person, or in response on this page.

Thank you for attention.

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lehha, 2021-06-03
@Isolution666

All questions have already been answered above, but about disputes - no.
The main postulate is that the owner of a TM (trademark registered in the appropriate order) can sue a physicist or a legal entity for a domain that is even confusingly similar to his TM (for example, Google can sue the gogle.ru or gooogle.ru domain). Moreover, they can do this without particularly compelling reasons, because the owner of the TM has the exclusive right to this spelling, including in domain names.
You can google about domain disputes, there are already a lot of cases and judicial practice.

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Stalker_RED, 2021-06-03
@Stalker_RED

The international organization ICANN issued all countries with a first -level domain (these are all ru, by and other tk). Each country has one or more registrars (more than thirty in Russia) that lease second -level domains (such as vasya.ru, apple.tv). And you can't buy such a domain, only rent it.
There are also international zones such as com, net, org, edu - in some cases, you can even get a domain there for free, but also not forever - only rent.
If you have a lot of money, like Google or Amazon, then you can register your own gTLD , such as .youtube or .apple
Well, if someone rented a domain like vasya.ru, he can create an unlimited number of third -level domains (like home.vasya.ru, market.vasya.ru, sales.vasya.ru), which he can rent , sell, donate...
He can even write you a paper that "I swear by my mother, the isolution.vasya.ru domain will be yours forever!" but this piece of paper will turn into rubbish as soon as this Vasya pushes the renewal of his vasya.ru domain, or when the .ru zone managers revoke his domain.
How to contact :
Use the whois service to look up the contacts of the owner.
Some registrars allow the owner to hide contact information, then you can only contact the registrar by requesting it (that is, nothing if you are not the CIA).
whether there was a sale :
some services allow you to view whois history ( example from google.com ).

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Ivan Shumov, 2021-06-03
@inoise

Almost nothing. In fact, there is no such service as buying a domain - there is a domain lease for a certain period for which you are its "owner". Buying a domain forever is impossible. Well, unless you create your own new zone, but almost no one has that kind of money and technical capabilities.
The only information available to a mere mortal is the contacts of the temporary owner (if they are published) and the contacts of the owners of the domain zone. The latter do not bear any responsibility and will not transmit any information without a court order.

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gd1xza, 2021-06-03
@gd1xza

How to contact domain OWNERS,

domain zones have special whois servers that store owners' contacts
How legal disputes are conducted on the right to withdraw the company's branded domain name from an individual.

both physical and legal disputes are handled through the zone registrar which has its own policy for such cases for com,net,org it is icann
for ru - rucenter
for de - nic.de

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CityCat4, 2021-06-03
@CityCat4

It turns out that if so, then I can "wait" when, for example, Google does not renew the domain in time, and rent it for its hosting, that is, deprive the company of the brand name specified in the domain.

You won't believe it, but yes! Theoretically you can! Not with Google, of course, to do this, but with a thinner office - easily. But the fact is that it is easy to prove the fact that you bought the domain for resale.
You just probably don’t know that there is a whole army of squatters who “buy up” domains that no one needs now, support their lease in the expectation that one day someone will need them and here they are stealing money.
I think this story will drag on until the first high-profile scandal

Google it. Scandals on this topic - at least #oops chew. But it's too late. The glade has been divided for a long time and there are such grandmas spinning there that you won’t dream about in a nightmare.
You can't buy a domain. Generally. No way. This is from a strictly legal point of view. Because they - suddenly - do not sell!
There is ICANN - an international office that sells , of course, but - the right to create its own top-level zone.
There are technical registrars who bought this right from her, created a zone, established its regulations (where they can enter any rules, even the most absurd ones) and sell the right to register names in this zone. Each zone has onetechnical registrar. He is in a sense the OWNER of all domains in this zone - he can dispose of the right to register domains in his zone at his own discretion.
There are simply registrars who have bought the right to register names in this zone. The registrar can conduct his own business - sell the right to change the settings of the domain name that the registrar undertakes to register. They will do it for money, or how - it's their own business, what payment schedule they want - they set it up, they can take it as puppies, they can give it for free.
And there is a user who buys the right to change the domain name settings.
The user buys the right to change settings (that's what we call "buy a domain") withinseparate agreement with the registrar
The registrar transfers changes from the user under a separate agreement with the technical registrar. It may well happen that two or more registrars will accept an application for registration of the same name from their users - usually the name is received by the first one who has time.
The technical registrar maintains the zone and is responsible for its operation to ICANN.
So, the OWNERS have long agreed on everything ...

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