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elisey4742018-06-25 18:46:34
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elisey474, 2018-06-25 18:46:34

How do you become "true Linuxoids and geeks"?

On Toaster, forums, IRC, etc. There are two types of people: those who ask and those who answer. Question to the latter, where does all this knowledge come from? Moreover, most part-time rummage in computer networks, electronics in general. I ask this question in order to set myself the right course of development. Do you just know how to google better than others? Is this knowledge acquired in educational institutions? Or the experience gained by the same googling of their problems?

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Anton Shvets, 2018-06-25
@elisey474

Red-eyed people - the meme is associated with the characteristic color of the whites of the eyes of a person who sits a lot in front of the monitor - from prolonged stress and / or lack of sleep, the vessels in the eyes expand (mind you, they do not burst!), And the red “mesh” closes the eyes.

You need an interest in the topic and technical skills.
and also
1. Some amount of literature on the topic
2. A very large amount of time spent on independent experiments
3. Work in relevant industries.
Educational institutions help here, of course, but not decisively. The party still has an impact.
Do not google, but formulate a question and deduce consequences from the answers. Google is just another data source.

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CityCat4, 2018-06-25
@CityCat4

From practice.
Which takes a lot of time. You have to love this business.
The fact that this is "mine" - I realized in incredibly shaggy times, while studying a course with the romantic name LiPo CAD - Linguistic and CAD Software :) Very quickly, my interest took me far beyond the course, led to reading books (paper! ) on the basics of RSX-11M, as well as the C programming language.
Then there was a deduction from the institute, because I spent all the time in the terminal, then there was an ES computer, where no one drove me from the terminals in my spare time (although at first they looked like . .. crazy :) ) It was a time of learning English and reading documentation, assembly language and PL/1...
Then there was MS-DOS 3.3, then Windows, then SCO UNIX, FreeBSD, Linux...
Where does it come from?
From the ability to set a task and look for an answer to a question. Analyze the received data, apply them and find the answer that solves the problem. Google (and earlier Altavista) will always tell you where to look for something. There are always forums, documentation, mana, sources in the end :)
Yes, after working enough time you come across a lot. At first I studied as a computer designer, so I know not only assembler, but I also had to program in machine codes and work with the element base. Where do I need it now? When choosing RAM, they often use completely incomprehensible terms - CAS, RAS ... :)
Search. And don't be afraid to face challenges. For example, learning UNIX - it just goes like this - you install a distribution, you start doing something, it doesn’t work, you start breaking the system, you break it, you swear, you demolish it, you install it again ...

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Alexander, 2018-06-25
@alexr64

As in any other field: experience comes only with practice.
The basic principle is voiced in the song of the "Leningrad" group - "If in the tower ..." (there is one more word in the title, but it is also googled).
To use Google skillfully, you need to be able to ask the right question - and therefore have at least some idea of ​​\u200b\u200bwhat you are looking for.
Manuals for the software + a clearly set goal to get this software out in the tail and in the mane.

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Vladimir T, 2018-06-25
@32bit_me

most part-time rummage in computer networks, electronics in general.

In general, not many people rummage in electronics, if you do not take the level of arduino, and they rarely rummage in something else. So this is most likely a misleading impression created by the Dunning-Kruger syndrome, which so many regulars of the forums are subject to.

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Eugene, 2018-06-26
@immaculate

At one time, I had the first computer, on which, on the advice of a classmate, I installed Linux in order to be "not like everyone else." There was almost no Internet then, but every distribution had a package with Linux-HOWTOs. And so I sat all day and read these HOWTOs in turn, trying to immediately find a use for my knowledge (write a bash script, play with ifconfig/route/netstat, etc.). Also read mans when there was internet, read various magazines like Linux Magazine, Linux Weekly News (still exists, and great source of information).
I took books from the library by Evi Nemeth (if I'm not mistaken), some other Unix/Linux Talmuds.
All this gave a good base, knowledge grew with experience.

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Ezhyg, 2018-06-25
@Ezhyg

Moreover, most part-time rummage in computer networks, electronics in general.

well, I’m rummaging around in some construction industries (and also repair, finishing and all that), but not very much in electronics, and in networks it’s so-so :(
The answer is simple - everything at once and everyone is different, and ... Or else easier - these people know - that any (with rare exceptions) problem can be solved;). And also experience, and also Google and Yandex.
Perhaps, if you dig deep into the brain, then their brains are arranged closer to those who create (shaft) the industry, well, they are also part of it.
But Linux sucks! :P

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Stanislav Makarov, 2018-06-26
@Nipheris

Do you just know how to google better than others?

You know what's all the fun? I don't know the exact answer to many questions. But I still try to answer them. Do you know why? Because I know WHAT to look for, unlike the questioner.
You think that the ability to google is the ability to form the right search query. This is not true. The ability to google is general fundamental knowledge plus the ability to form maybe one or maybe 10 search queries.
For example, if I know what a web framework is, and I know what they are, for example, in dotnet, and I imagine what you can roughly want from a web framework based on some PHP.
This fact is also proved by another observation of mine - sometimes I am surprised that I was able to answer a question a couple of years ago. Obviously, some private information has already disappeared, I probably googled it while searching for a solution. Well, or I worked with some technology more closely, but now I forgot something. This is normal, you need to learn to collect information.

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Maxim Yaroshevich, 2018-07-05
@YMax

I don’t consider myself a Linuxoid, although I use Linux in my work, and when used correctly, it is much better than window vents. It’s just that sometimes you want to go beyond the fort reality and see what else is there? Information on the Internet about Linux is much better and more specific than on Windows, the solution to the problem is usually found quite quickly.

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Alexander, 2018-07-05
Madzhugin @Suntechnic

They never become. It's just that at a certain moment you discover that they call you that and wonder - how so? I don't understand what the hell is wrong with this. So - I know a couple of simple tricks.

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Ingvar, 2018-06-26
@take

It seems to me that the beginning of his journey in Linux was described very well by the creator of Debian, Ian Murdoch, in his small memoir, published on his personal blog entitled: "How I ended up in Linux." Here it is in Russian.

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Egor Kazantsev, 2018-06-28
@saintbyte

To become a true Linuxoid, you need to assemble the kernel so many times to earn red-eyed, because the true Linuxoid is red-eyed, and you need to do this at night because the true Linuxoid is a bit of a hacker - and hackers are like monsters under the bed, scary only at night. And then, of course, every day you have to go to the ENT and show the onanimus where the crayfish hibernate

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