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Agatnet2020-12-07 18:38:31
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Agatnet, 2020-12-07 18:38:31

How can a junior junior who is not quite successful find a job/internship/mentor?

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My daughter is a first-year student at TUSUR (Tomsk University of Control Systems and Radioelectronics). Specialty - "information systems and technologies". She acted on her own (at least not a fool).
As a number of students, I began to look for a part-time job. BUT, not at all in the field of his future specialty. I expressed my opinion that since there is a desire to look for a part-time job, then we should immediately try to look at profile options. My daughter agreed with my argument, but the problem is that she doesn’t even know where to start looking for an employer, and whether there are those who are interested in employees with a lack of experience and the most basic, initial knowledge.
Basic Python, C#, pretty decent math.
In general, I want to get advice - how to find an employer for such a case, is it real?

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Johnny Gat, 2020-12-07
@JohnnyGat

The first 2 years, let him just study. No side jobs.
First and so after school change of "rhythm". Secondly, at first it is necessary to "work" on the attitude of teachers towards it. He will show a "craving for knowledge" and understanding, perhaps (it already depends on the teachers) then he will receive half the session automatically.

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Saboteur, 2020-12-07
@saboteur_kiev

Well, if there are such employers, they are clearly not on the toaster.
From my own experience, I will say that no one needs failed employees, who still need an eye and an eye. There is work, there is a curator who can suggest something on the little things. But at work, no one teaches you how to work. You learn by doing the work.
I don’t understand where this trend came from among modern youth, that they will teach everything at work.
Of course, at work you will get a lot of experience and knowledge, but "minimum skills" is when you already know and are able to do everything to complete the tasks, and not someone picked it up.
Part-time work - in IT there is no such thing.
A part-time developer, and also a junior - this generally sounds pointless.
Okay, still a part-time artist-designer.
Or devops/sysadmin in simple projects.
Okay, half-time senior architect, supervises two or three development teams in one project.
But a junior developer who doesn’t really do his job and distracts the attention of curators - this is simply not needed and not in demand by anyone. And even if, as an exception, there is such an employer, it will be an extremely rare opportunity.
Pull up your skills to a confident June, and even then it makes sense to look for a job.
There are many open source projects in the world, including those in python and C #, where you can improve your skills
. You can sign up for freelancing and look at tasks there. There is even a chance that you will manage to intercept a couple of tasks and complete them not for yourself, but for money.
In general, judging by the current trends, it is better to grow up to an insecure middle, and only then look for a job.

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Amoralny, 2020-12-07
Cat @Amoralny

Learn as much as possible the PL, the operation of the PC, networks, and many other little things.
If there are no problems with this, then at the social security service you can say that you were in charge of a large project that was closed due to the fault of the owner, etc., the main thing is not to say that you don’t know anything at all and only from the university.
Without experience they rarely take, very much. If you have excellent knowledge, starting from a middle developer, then you can try to break through, and then everything will spin by itself.
In your free time, improve your skills and knowledge, write code more often, pay attention to how you write code - beautifully or not.
ps. completely my opinion, based on the told familiar programmers

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Kirill Makarov, 2020-12-08
@kirbi1996

If a person has not worked yet, then this is not a junior but a trainee. In general, even for a penny to find an internship is already good luck. Here the diploma does not really channel, the main thing is to catch on to work, and to learn and practice a lot. Well, in general, to respond to everything in a row somewhere and even MB will see the potential and take it

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N1ghtWolf, 2020-12-08
@N1ghtWolf

The chances of an adventure are close to zero.
Uni is good. There is no point in wasting time earning pocket money. The first two years it is better to learn as much as possible, if possible, participate in olympiads / conferences. This, so to speak, is a contribution to the future and will bring many benefits in the future - good relations with teachers, automatic machines, free attendance, normal distribution for practice, increased / academic scholarship (by the way, there were students who received more teachers' salaries, from which the latter, of course, burning fiercely).
By the 3rd year, your own Wishlist will already be clear and it will be possible to find a job in your specialty. For example, stay after practice in a company or, again, find it through teachers.
PS: there is, of course, the way of a renegade - to score at the university, get some practical skills, look for a job as a junior, barely finish your studies or score and not finish your studies at all, but by the time you graduate, be already a specialist. But for me this path can lead nowhere.

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Andrey Fedorov, 2016-12-06
@bootd

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