Help me choose an MFP for the office

Question

Canon

I am looking for an MFP for the office (~ 40 people) as a backup (and in the future as a replacement) for the Canon iR C2380i.
Printing: double-sided, color, laser, in A4-A3 format, from 20-25 ppm. (b/w, А4)
Print volume: from 2-3 thousand to 40-50 thousand sheets per month (in bulk 1-3 times a year)
Scanning: with automatic feeding, two-sided, from 30-40 ppm .
Send scans by e-mail or copy to a network folder.

Cartridges separately from the photoconductor (toner hoppers) with a resource of 20 thousand sheets (black) and cost no more than 15 kopecks. per sheet.

Budget: up to 200 thousand rubles.

At the very least, I want to define a brand. Now I'm torn between Kyocera, Konica Minolta, Canon.

And yes, there are no Kyocera and Konica Minolta service centers in the city, and a Canon service center can serve breakfast for months. Therefore, we need equipment that can be handled by an average specialist of an office equipment service company (the iR C2380i can handle it easily :-)).

UPD: Kyocera is captivated by the photodrum resource (up to 10 times more than similar models from other brands).
UPD2: personal impressions and experience with equipment of this class (and brands in general) are very welcome.

Answer 1

Our customers have about 50 Kyocera printers. for 3 years of operation with them there were the following incidents:
1) The mouse climbed into the printer and gnawed through the cable (and even did its own thing there).
2) During a power surge, when the light bulbs on the ceiling burst, two of the four printers at the facility burned out the power boards. But in general, this situation looks more like “two printers out of four did not burn out”, because at the facility, one of the APC uninterruptible power supplies just burst into flames.
3) After turning off the power, the MFP did not turn on. As it turned out as a result: the user on the Kyocera 1135 did not find the power button (it is not in the most obvious place there).
4) Somewhere closer to 150,000 mileage, one Kyocera 2020dn began to smear. The reason is the general dustiness of the warehouse and poor quality paper. Decided to clean the device.
5) One of our clients, out of habit, saved on consumables and ordered refilling of Kyocera toners (!), Savings were not long in coming for more than 40 thousand prints - dirt, stench and other delights. It may also have been low quality paper. The issue seems to have been resolved again by cleaning.
But the most regular thing that strains the operation of the Kyocera MFP is the waste toner bin. On the A4 MFP, the waste toner bin is stationary and it needs to be cleaned after about 80 thousand prints, and this procedure is not the most pleasant, but again, servicemen can easily and naturally cope with it. Everything else takes place within the declared regulations (the photo drum on the MFP changes after 150 thousand, on printers after 300).

Answer 2

I used Xerox (I don't remember the model), but now I have Conica Minolta c451 (it's a higher class than you need).
And here and there problems began to appear after a 2-year run. Repair hemorrhoids on your own, so choose a device that can be serviced by a third-party office in your city.

Answer 3

We use large b/w Kyocera, no questions asked. I really like the Web-interface and networking in general, no problems with auto-feeding of originals.
Powder consumption is economical, but we do not refill, the price allows.
No quirks with chips or a smart card (hello, Xerox!) were found, the service in Moscow is decent, but expensive - they broke the price for a trifling breakdown, an "outside" specialist fixed it cheaper and faster.
In the small segment, I also recommend Kyocera to everyone, I introduced 3 pieces of FS-1035MFP, no complaints here either.
Take a look at
www.abius.ru/catalog/copiers/kyocera-fs-c8520mfp.html

Answer 4

I can say about Kyocera that only the most positive reviews and emotions remained. No service, no problem. Because the MFP has a very unpretentious character. just changed the toner. No setup problems. All models use one universal driver. So for brands I advise Kyocera.

Answer 5

And for Kyocera, in rare cases, a service center is needed.
Everything is being replaced by blocks, especially in MFPs. A friend said that the Kyocera FS-6525MFP was generally developed as an MFP for places where there is no service center. The stove flew - took it out and inserted a new one in 2 minutes.