I
I
Innokenty Ivanov2017-05-05 14:13:49
System administration
Innokenty Ivanov, 2017-05-05 14:13:49

Does it make sense now in the classical device management paradigm (domains, locales, DHCP and other servers), if all this can be replaced by the web?

I have matured.
Why even bother with Windows accounts and administering a huge number of server functions, fooling around with ActiveDirectory, setting up domains and other "classic" beauties?
After all, you can file web services and accounts a la Google / Microsoft, only for your company / educational institution. There will be no need to write a ton of win32 applications and then forget about their support. Moreover, the web has a bunch of ready-made services for project management, communication, etc. You won’t have to cut your bikes if you don’t have enough money. And all this running around with setting up computers, installing software, complex local networks, etc. will end like a nightmare! You can replace heavy computers with thin clients.
The web provides cross-platform, cross-browser, cross-device and crossfit, and for the rest of the legacy there is Azure Active Directory and Microsoft MDM.
Do you agree that the new web-based management paradigm is better than the classical one? How long will it take for different managers and management to realize that moving the old corporate software to the web is necessary? What are the problems in the transition from "classics" to the web?
PS I'm talking about a company of medium and light gravity, and educational institutions of any scale.

Answer the question

In order to leave comments, you need to log in

6 answer(s)
P
pfg21, 2017-05-05
@pfg21

Every plus has its minus.
the content of the cloud is technically not yours and access to it is regulated by third parties, both physically and, usually, legally.
And from the point of view of many companies, this is already a fundamental disadvantage.
and one x the entire web cloud enent lies on dhcp local domains, and other infrastructure, just somewhere there ...

S
Site Developer, 2017-05-05
@secsite

We smoke "thin client" and think about security on the web.
APD . "Thin client" is not a piece of iron, but a principle, a technology.

V
Valentine, 2017-05-05
@vvpoloskin

administration of a huge number of server functions

Well, if they have software on them, how can you not fool around with them?
No online service will provide integration like AD. Well, or name what can replace the differentiation of rights to print servers, network folders (native win, 1C can work with them), shared applications, access to video conferencing / telephony, taking into account the installed HW, and even so that all this works through a public Internet during business trips of employees or at a new workstation. And also temporary access to contractors, access approval by managers and their deputies.
So no one has been using pure win32 for a long time. In .net or java companies.
Yes, in an organization for 1.5 diggers, it is better to adjust the processes to the services offered. In large organizations, the opposite is more beneficial.
Already, in reputable organizations, setting up a computer is to install windows and an antivirus. All necessary applications come through AppV, files are stored on a network ball. Complicated local networks for office workers - they don't exist. Well, several vlans for special or remote units, but there is nothing complicated here at all, on the contrary, it’s even easier.
Have you just learned about thin clients? Congratulations. It has nothing to do with web services. Rather, virtualization technologies in general and vdi in particular.
In large companies, and so much through the web (SAP, ServiceManager, portals, wiki, etc.), only within the organization. This does not change the fact that it is necessary to tightly redesign the server part for each organization and the business processes adopted in it.

S
Saboteur, 2017-05-05
@saboteur_kiev

I don't really understand how are you going to replace DHCP with web services?
Or does the thin client not need an IP address?
Another thing is that the applications themselves - yes, can be taken to the web. But a person cannot magically connect to a web application yet, so working clients - they still need networks, dhcp, some kind of operating system, some kind of thin client (browser), and all this still needs to be administrated.
To shift customer support to users, especially at school - are you suggesting that every student carry a device with them? From first grade? And what will the satisfied parents of the child say to you, who now need to purchase a device for their money, and if it breaks / is stolen / taken away / hacked?
Do not confuse infrastructure administration and enterprise application support

A
Artem @Jump, 2017-05-05
Tag

What's the difference between - "write web services" and "write a ton of win32 applications" ?
For example, I do not see a fundamental difference - what some write, what others are equally pleased. It's the same with support.

Moreover, the web has a bunch of ready-made services for project management, communication, etc., you won’t have to cut your bikes
If it suits you, use it. But not everyone is satisfied with giving their data to the side, and depending on the stable operation of the Internet and other people's services, and the Internet, oddly enough, is not everywhere.
You can replace heavy computers with thin clients.
Can. You can also ditch expensive application servers by pushing as much computing and applications as possible onto client computers. Sometimes this is very beneficial.
Do you agree that the new web-based management paradigm is better than the classical one?
Of course I agree that there are cases when it is better in a particular case.
But more often it is either worse, or the same eggs are only in profile.
How long will it take for various managers and management to realize that moving the old corporate software to the web is necessary?
As soon as it becomes profitable , they will begin to transfer it.

M
Main Field, 2017-05-13
@main_field

And if batsss and your router or Internet provider fell ... and goodbye to work for the day? How will we get rid of the director?

Didn't find what you were looking for?

Ask your question

Ask a Question

731 491 924 answers to any question