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kuzkokov2019-01-31 11:19:22
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kuzkokov, 2019-01-31 11:19:22

Do I have to pay taxes when withdrawing money from Payoneer?

Recently started working for Upwork. As it turned out, withdrawing money from there is still hemorrhoids, and they will also rip off a bunch of commissions. Now I do this: I transfer money to payoneer, from there I withdraw it to a dollar account. Do I need to pay taxes on this, can they somehow track it?
Or is it better to order a payoneer card and transfer cash to the account?

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Ilya S, 2019-01-31
@Stalinko

As it turned out, withdrawing money from there is still hemorrhoids, and they will also rip off a bunch of commissions.

In fact, only $30 per transfer. For large amounts, it is much more profitable than PayPal / Payoneer / Direct Local Bank.
Paying taxes with Upwork is easy. You have to figure it out once, but it makes sense if you have at least $1000 a month or more. Otherwise, no one is interested in you and you can limit yourself to PayPal or a Payoneer card.
I can’t imagine how you can legally pay taxes when transferring from Payoneer to your account in Russia. To pay taxes, you will need a justification for the transfer, an agreement or other document. And here you are making a transfer to yourself, and even from an illegal foreign account, to put it mildly.
Why transfer from Payoneer to Russia at all? use their card. Or withdraw money in another way.

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Puma Thailand, 2019-01-31
@opium

They can track, taxes must be paid depending on the status of the taxpayer
Cash is of course a more gray topic, but how will you explain where you get the money from and why you don’t pay taxes on it, it’s just that in the first case it’s quite easy to track the source of money for the bank or authorities

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tema_sun, 2019-01-31
@tema_sun

Of course you do. In general, you don’t need Payoneer in this option, just make a wire transfer to the account (of course, you will need an IP, etc.)
If you want to use a Payoneer card, then don’t tell anyone about it, don’t pay in stores and just don’t don't shine. Money came - went to the ATM and removed.

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ZERGE, 2019-01-31
@ZERGE

Do I need to pay taxes on this?

Need.
They can.
What's the difference?

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Anton Tarasov, 2019-01-31
@an-tar

Recently started working for Upwork. As it turned out, withdrawing money from there is still hemorrhoids, and they will also rip off a bunch of commissions.

Unfortunately it is so. But it is the right legal way.
Where is the dollar bill? In the Russian Federation, any receipt of money to a transit account must be justified and taxes must be paid from this.
In both cases, the use of Payoneer in the Russian Federation is, to put it mildly, illegal, taxes must be paid, they can be tracked, and the further, the higher the likelihood of this - there is a law on the exchange of tax data + an increase in computing power and the ability to analyze heterogeneous transactions, etc. .

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Sammuel1992, 2021-04-05
@Sammuel1992

It all depends on how you output.
Different countries have different ways available.
If you have the opportunity to order a Payoneer card, you can withdraw it from ATMs and not declare anything.
If a withdrawal to a bank account is used, then in most cases there will be no problems with small amounts.
If the amounts are large and payments are frequent, it is better to register an individual entrepreneur (in Ukraine, a FOP) and withdraw legally, pay 5% and do not take a steam bath.
You can read more here: https://getpayments.com.ua/#taxes

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