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Zero9320842021-09-05 22:20:59
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Zero932084, 2021-09-05 22:20:59

Do gaming laptops have a shorter lifespan than a PC with exactly the same hardware, but with a CBO or a good cooler?

Usually in laptops under load, the processor temperature can reach 80 (another 10 degrees before throttling most processors from intel) degrees, and video cards 70 (another 15-20 degrees and there will be a chip dump on most nvidia video cards) degrees, on a PC with normal cooling ( at standard / recommended settings for the number of fan revolutions, as on a laptop), the temperature of the processor is 60-70 degrees maximum, the temperature of the video card is 50-60 degrees in the load, i.e. laptop will last less? Or not? Why not make a general norm for laptops and stationary PCs, since there is nothing criminal in raising the temperature by 10-20 degrees? But it will work quieter or you can squeeze the maximum performance, it's profitable. Yes, iron is obsolete and all that, but if you discard this, does this difference affect the service life? And how do laptop manufacturers solve the problem with heating RAM? The airflow is not the same as on the PC, maybe the manufacturers underestimate the voltage, or there are unscrupulous ones who allow the operator to heat up above the norm by at least 10-15 degrees, at which the memory works fine, but fails 2 months after how did the warranty expire?

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Drno, 2021-09-05
@Drno

What is the question then?
In order. At 70-90g, the chip does not fall off. and vidhi usually do not heat up to such temperatures, where throttling slows down the pace before that.
For example, I have a vidyaha in a PC - and taking into account its cooling, it heats up and works at 83 (max) gr ... and nothing, everything is alive ...
The laptop will not last less. if the manufacturer has set iron standards and thought out the cooling system.
It is impossible to make a general norm (and why? There is simply a maximum possible rate). Chips in PCs and laptops are different. and they have different characteristics
What should work quieter? A PC, even with the right case and valves, works virtually silently, but laptops still can’t, because. there are high-speed coolers, there is not enough space, it is necessary to somehow compensate.
Globally, this does not affect the service life, the temperature - + \ - 10g does not make the weather.
In general, I have not seen that the RAM in the laptops is dead, although of course there is such a thing. Usually it does not need to be cooled, it is enough that it is pressed against a common cooling radiator, the RAM does not heat up much

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lonelymyp, 2021-09-05
@lonelymyp

I would say that the PC is more tenacious, because, in principle, there is no problem of a processor dump due to cyclic heating / cooling, vibrations and deformations of the case.

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ewgenc, 2021-09-06
@ewgenc

It will become obsolete before something actually degrades or falls off from elevated temperatures, of course, subject to regular maintenance.

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Borys Latysh, 2021-09-06
@nava2002

There are no miracles in the world. Even the divine "Apple" can not cancel the laws of physics. The limited (geometrically) size of a laptop ensures that it cannot be "same configuration" as a desktop PC.
"If you read the inscription on an elephant's cage: buffalo, don't believe your eyes"
Well, as it is in practice (roughly): a 7 nm processor in a laptop can be compared with a 14 nm processor in a desktop PC. Since in a laptop, the processor will be strangled to reduce heat dissipation.
PS And drive away thoughts of overclocking. An army of factory engineers is working to get the most out of any crystal that rolls off the assembly line. That's why there are processors that have 2, 4 or 8 cores. This is the same processor, but with a different level of marriage. Any attempt to overclock is a direct path to the loss of the device. (Personally tested on "experienced" consumers.)

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evgeniy_lm, 2021-09-06
@evgeniy_lm

In general, then:
1. A gaming laptop is nothing more than a marketing scam
2. A laptop will be 2-3 times more expensive than a desktop with similar characteristics
3. The average ceiling life of a laptop is significantly lower than that of a desktop, so laptop manufacturers do not particularly bother with reliability.
If specifically:

those. laptop will last less? Or not?

Definitely yes (item 3)
Why not make a general norm for laptops and stationary PCs,

And how do you imagine it? The same hardware is used in PCs and laptops, but in a PC there is a large spacious case, large radiators and powerful coolers on the CPU and GPU, alas, you can’t put all this into a laptop. Therefore, the hardware in the laptop operates at lower frequencies (while the cost of this hardware is the same).
But it will work quieter or you can squeeze the maximum performance, it's profitable.

No one forbids overclocking, in any case, your hardware will become obsolete before it fails
Does this difference affect the service life?

There is little. But in general, this is a "debatable issue" (the subject of shit)
And how do laptop manufacturers solve the problem with heating RAM?

Just like in desktops - radiators, competent air convection. In laptops, this is even easier than in a PC.
Airflow is not the same as on the PC, maybe

in laptops, the ventilation system is more efficient than in a PC, everything is clearly tied and thought out there. PC components are universal from the outset, it is not known in which case you will put all this. I had a case, assembled a PC pioneer. After a couple of days, it calls - it freezes every half hour, the CPU temperature is over 100. I brought it, it does not rise above 70 at my house with the most powerful load. I took it, by the evening the same garbage. It turned out that the system unit was placed near the hot battery.
manufacturers lower the voltage,

Alas, this is the essence of laptops, they underestimate both the voltage and, as a result, the frequency (well, of course, speed)
or there are unscrupulous

No, the competition is too high

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