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jww2017-09-30 22:58:18
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jww, 2017-09-30 22:58:18

Can't get an order on the exchange?

Hello. About a year and a half - two years ago I tried to work on the stock exchange, I couldn’t take simple projects because of wild competition, but I managed to get more complex ones with animation, with some kind of logic. Then I went to the office, now I’m trying again on the stock exchange, having a profile with previous reviews, but I can’t take on such projects as I took on the first attempt to work on the stock exchange. Let's say earlier there were 10-15 responses to layout projects with animations, and now there are 50. It turns out that after some time, there will be such wild competition for very complex projects with React, Angular, etc.? Is this the end of WEB development?

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Barido, 2017-10-01
@Barido

Thank you, tell those who write articles on Habré about how they started freelancing, at first it was difficult, but they pulled themselves together and now the money is pouring in. They are digging a hole for themselves by talking about it.
Or how they retrained to be a programmer overnight at the age of 80. Why - it is not clear - there are more people, more competition, less money, more Indians.
And among customers, too, now there are appropriate expectations for payment - a clone of Facebook for $ 100 and a crowd of people who want it.
So I think that it will be even cheaper and worse.

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âš¡ Kotobotov âš¡, 2017-10-01
@angrySCV

the market demand is growing even more, you just chose a very competitive, low-skilled segment with a low entry level, start developing for an EPL watch, for example, or there is some kind of automation on arduino, there are more and more segments every day, as well as niches. You should not close yourself, the segment that you have chosen is obviously bent, leave it to schoolchildren or Indians, go further, improve quality, take on more complex projects, there will always be a demand for them.

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oh, 2017-10-01
well @AnneSmith

there will never be competition for complex projects, because the number of projects is growing, and the number of smart ones remains the same, especially with such muddy hurdy-gurdies like angular,
before everyone could make a terrible html page and told how all the work on the web ended, because the specialists from India will do everything for two cents in a dreamweaver, today you need to know and be able to build a site two orders of magnitude more and better
80% of "developers" know the "basics of html and css" and are not able to debug their own code, even judging by this eatery
further it will only be more difficult, and all this riff-raff will be eliminated by itself

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xmoonlight, 2017-10-01
@xmoonlight

Is this the end of WEB development?
This is the dawn of quality freelance web development!
1. Will order more "turnkey"
2. Will work more often through a secure transaction
3. Will work with those who have passed tests for knowledge of directions on a freelance resource.
That is, people will demand not a semblance of a work product ("handicraft for pennies"), but a work product that meets the criteria of quality and competition in the market.
Minimum for websites :
1. Appearance (presentable and "working" design for the target audience, correct layout),
2. Convenience (UI / UX),
3. Speed ​​of processing user requests by the server.

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Crash, 2017-10-05
@Bandicoot

I also noticed that it has become much more difficult to take the most delicious orders for the development of projects from scratch than a few years ago. And now I have more experience and skills. I don’t even want to meddle in layout - it’s just hell there)
And in the early 2010s and earlier, it was enough just to want to work - you take an order and go, that’s when there really was a shortage of developers. Then there was no such popularization and fashion for the profession of a programmer, there were no all these codecademy, codeschool, coursera, hexlet, stepic, geekbrains and others (this is not a complete list).
The moral is simple: if you have regular customers and they trust you, hold on to them tightly) It only becomes more difficult to find new ones over time.

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Don Gan, 2017-10-01
@PravdorubMSK

Touching answers in the style of "this is not a sunset, but a dawn." What is the dawn here, if
> earlier there were 10-15 responses to layout projects from animations, and now 50.
Is it dawn?) And don't talk about Indians and riff-raff. All riff-raff will gain experience over time and there will be an over-dofiga of high-quality performers.
IT is the bottom where it is impossible to make money due to two reasons:
- physically unlimited competition
- the role of habra-like resources that made a garbage dump out of IT, into which everyone who is not lazy is now rushing

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mafusailmagoga, 2017-10-01
@mafusailmagoga

If in 2 years you have not progressed anywhere and you are interested in the same simple projects as 2 years ago, then you need it.
In the field of expensive complex projects, there is a shortage of qualified executors.
I speak as a customer.

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Sanes, 2017-10-01
@Sanes

You don't know how to sell. Return to the office.

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Artem Spiridonov, 2017-10-05
@customtema

Sunset.
I killed my profile. In the end, I only benefited from it. It should have been done a long time ago.
Freelancing was interesting 5-10 years ago. Now pacifiers are both the vast majority of performers and customers. On both sides, a predominantly unpromising shkolota, regardless of age, is essentially a shkolota.
Where to get a job? Or get hired, or "Business Youth". Both approaches are good.

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Anton Filippov, 2017-10-03
@vicodin

The sunset is still far away, there is no competition in the medium and high dash. Raise your skills from macaque level to middle/senior, and you will have to fight back and hide from work.

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Pavel, 2017-10-01
@mrusklon

everything is simple. Economics school curriculum. Demand = supply.
Those who make Facebook for 3 kopecks will continue to do only this all their lives.

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Puma Thailand, 2017-10-01
@opium

These are easy projects.
If you take something serious for an angular or reactor, there are months of work, what kind of competition can there be?

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Philip Grr, 2017-10-04
@Moon_Lobster

Demand grows with it, and supply grows, this is a normal situation

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Maxim Kotenko, 2017-10-05
@mistik_max

So why do you need an exchange? Look for a normal constant and don’t worry too much, or do a couple of projects for free for several people, or for a free fee, and then help them develop on partnerships...

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