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NIKOFF2018-03-18 17:08:46
Business Informatics
NIKOFF, 2018-03-18 17:08:46

Can a web studio work without a contract?

For example, there is a certain team for website development, positioning itself as a web studio.
(not officially registered)
What to say to the client if he wants to sign the contract?
How can this issue be bypassed?

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Oleg, 2018-03-18
@402d

work for free.

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abroabr, 2018-03-19
@abroabr

What to say to the client if he wants to sign the contract?

Then he is going to transfer money by bank transfer most likely.
And you don't have a bank account.

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maxaus, 2018-03-19
@maxaus

register an individual entrepreneur for one of you, depending on the region, or you will have tax holidays for the first few years, or buy a patent there and also, in fact, you will pay a penny in terms of taxes. The contract will still give customers some minimal confidence that they will not be thrown.

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aderes, 2018-03-19
@de-iure

If this is a one-time job for you, conclude an agreement between individuals (the contractor is you, the customer is the client), but if you do this work all the time (you have a website with a portfolio and prices, you have advertising ... other signs of commercial activity), then either an individual entrepreneur (most likely optimal for you), or an LLC.
And the client who wants to work with you just wants to have a guarantee that he will get the result by paying. However, of course, you can try to convince the client to work without a contract ... for example, the client pays for your services by transferring to your card (as an individual), and if he does not receive the result and accordingly returns the money (if you are not conscientious), then he (client), in the absence of a contract, will be able to recover money from you in court as unjust enrichment + interest for use + court costs, and possibly other amounts. But what if the client turns out to be dishonest? having received the result, in the absence of an agreement, the client decides to additionally return the money in court, and it is likely that he will succeed (the money was transferred to the card, there is documentary evidence, but there is no agreement ...) ... but there are clients who can go further, for example, by writing a statement about fraud on your part, or that you are illegally engaged in business activities ... and in this case, in addition to the likelihood of losing money, you are also guaranteed a huge loss of time communicating with our law enforcement agencies (it’s unlikely that the elements of a crime will be here ... although everything often depends on the activity of the client, it can be so bad for law enforcement officers that it will be easier for them not to unsubscribe, but to screw you ...). Of course, I described some kind of terrible development of events, it is unlikely that this will happen, as a rule, clients are lazy and they themselves are not eager to go to court, but there are also fundamental ones or with mental deviations (it’s generally an ass then) ... or about the fact that you are illegally engaged in entrepreneurial activities ... and in this case, in addition to the likelihood of losing money, you are also guaranteed to have a huge loss of time communicating with our law enforcement agencies (it is unlikely that there will be a crime here ... although everything often depends on the activity the client, maybe the law enforcement officers will be so sick that it will be easier for them not to unsubscribe, but to screw you ...). Of course, I described some kind of terrible development of events, it is unlikely that this will happen, as a rule, clients are lazy and they themselves are not eager to go to court, but there are also fundamental ones or with mental deviations (it’s generally an ass then) ... or about the fact that you are illegally engaged in entrepreneurial activities ... and in this case, in addition to the likelihood of losing money, you are also guaranteed to have a huge loss of time communicating with our law enforcement agencies (it is unlikely that there will be a crime here ... although everything often depends on the activity the client, maybe the law enforcement officers will be so sick that it will be easier for them not to unsubscribe, but to screw you ...). Of course, I described some kind of terrible development of events, it is unlikely that this will happen, as a rule, clients are lazy and they themselves are not eager to go to court, but there are also fundamental ones or with mental deviations (it’s generally an ass then) ... you are also guaranteed a huge loss of time to communicate with our law enforcement agencies (it’s unlikely that there will be a crime here ... although everything often depends on the activity of the client, it can be so bad for law enforcement officers that it will be easier for them not to unsubscribe, but to screw you ...) . Of course, I described some kind of terrible development of events, it is unlikely that this will happen, as a rule, clients are lazy and they themselves are not eager to go to court, but there are also fundamental ones or with mental deviations (it’s generally an ass then) ... you are also guaranteed a huge loss of time to communicate with our law enforcement agencies (it’s unlikely that there will be a crime here ... although everything often depends on the activity of the client, it can be so bad for law enforcement officers that it will be easier for them not to unsubscribe, but to screw you ...) . Of course, I described some kind of terrible development of events, it is unlikely that this will happen, as a rule, clients are lazy and they themselves are not eager to go to court, but there are also fundamental ones or with mental deviations (it’s generally an ass then) ...
So think about whether you need a contract? it can in some cases save you a lot of trouble ...

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other_letter, 2018-03-19
@other_letter

I’ll note right away that I am writing about the realities of the Russian Federation.
Just google what is considered a treaty in the Russian Federation. If simplified and askew - even a Skype dialogue like "Make me a website / OK, a million / Frets" - quite a contract.
Another thing is that you are required to declare income and formalize labor (or piecework-contract) relations, be registered, etc.
And so - polish yourself a phrase like "According to Article 10500 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, our dialogue is considered a Treaty"

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