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morsian19962021-07-21 14:43:42
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morsian1996, 2021-07-21 14:43:42

Are there NORMAL jobs in nature, where exactly those programmers who know EVERYTHING, but a little bit, are needed?

Such a programmer knows something badly, but something better, even at the level of a strong junior. In principle, it can solve any problem. Yes, and in some of the areas already worked, that is, this is not a person who is not at all in the subject.
But at the same time, in 70% of tasks in any language, his code "smells" (although it works fine!), And in 5-10% of tasks, something turns out that, in his opinion, seems normal, but conceptually - let's say, it simply cannot cope with load. The tedious finishing, optimization begins ... the result is obtained, but not immediately.

On the one hand, this all sounds crazy. Amateur!

On the other hand, we see a similar story in different projects, where narrow specialists probably work, but nevertheless, there are also a lot of all sorts of problems, then something lies, then something was rolled out, and then rolled back.
That is, it seems that the market is hawala such quality, although limited.

On the third hand ... it is unlikely that only users suffer from these "lyings" and other things, most likely the perpetrators themselves get a lot from the leadership for this. There may also be financial costs. That is why I do not call such work NORMAL.

But is there a job for such programmers where they can realize their potential precisely in inclusiveness?
And is there such a thing in the Russian Federation \ CIS or only abroad?

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Sergey Gornostaev, 2021-07-21
@sergey-gornostaev

The only companies that are interested in hiring general laymen are sleazy web studios and cheap galleys with greedy and stupid bosses from the 90s. In principle, it is impossible to be realized in such companies, they will continuously violate the labor rights of employees, squeezing all the juice out of them, requiring them to write as much shitty code as quickly as possible, and in case of problems, these same employees are made extreme and replaced by other similar fools.

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mkone112, 2021-07-21
@mkone112

Are there NORMAL jobs in nature?

Yes
programmers who know EVERYTHING, but just a little bit?

This is a coder or webmaster.
But at the same time, in 70% of tasks in any language, its code "smells"

And this is a govnokoder.
On the one hand, this all sounds crazy.

From all.
Amateur!

Yes.
ps further some garbage is already written - it's hard to read.

money for incompetence is not paid

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Puma Thailand, 2021-07-22
@opium

xs on most jobs in small and medium-sized companies there are always a lot of related things, and in large companies it often happens too.
for example, we have the main work in ruby
​​+ everyone writes the front-end and site design because it is functional
+ everyone writes complex JS scripts as advertising
+ everyone writes in go, since there is a node in go

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Ivan Shumov, 2021-07-21
@inoise

In inclusiveness - it is doubtful and absolutely doubtful. This is mainly the privilege of architects) and you still need to grow up to it. Production professions require a fairly narrow specialization and a complete set of tools. As for the normality of work, what is described is the work of the organization with normal processes. In IT, these are, strictly speaking, only some outsourcers, because for them a person is a resource and it must be implemented effectively

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Vitaly, 2021-07-21
@vt4a2h

In principle, it can solve any problem. Yes, and in some of the areas already worked, that is, this is not a person who is not at all in the subject.
But at the same time, in 70% of tasks in any language, his code "smells" (although it works fine!), And in 5-10% of tasks, something turns out that, in his opinion, seems normal, but conceptually - let's say, it simply cannot cope with load. The tedious finishing, optimization begins ... the result is obtained, but not immediately.

You have now described about 80-90% of programmers, regardless of the country. So yes, they pay for it and such people are needed :)

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