Are there any statistics somewhere on how successful it is to try to hunt guys from St. Petersburg to Moscow?

Question

Career in IT

Interested in statistics, or personal experience on how successfully it turns out to hunt developers from St. Petersburg for Moscow positions.
Those. let's say the median in St. Petersburg is 120 thousand, and then the developer is offered 140-150 in Moscow, how much interest this offer will cause among developers.

Answer 1

I wouldn't go. Delta is rather low for Peter to change to Moscow, where, imho, life is much more expensive.

Answer 2

This makes no sense, because. either the developer is forced to move to Moscow, where life is more expensive, and the difference in salaries is leveled, or he becomes a remote worker. And remotely, it makes almost no difference where to live. Actually, they will most likely offer a salary with a discount for the region of residence, and then, as you agree.

Answer 3

It seems to me that by offering such a small delta, you risk deceiving yourself.
Because a person can agree to such a move in 2 situations:
1. He considers your proposal as a temporary springboard and knows in advance that he will leave you in a matter of months.
2. PPC likes your company, it's just a dream job.
Which case do you think is more likely?
In other cases, the delta clearly does not compensate for the increase in the cost of living and the hassle of changing your hometown to an unfamiliar one.

Answer 4

I, as a person who lived in Moscow, and in St. Petersburg and in the provinces, will answer:
Many companies are located within the Third Ring Road.
Here, either spend money on the road, renting cheaper housing, or rent next to work.
The cost of housing (Odnushka, 30 meters) in the TTK area is about 45 tr and more. Good options are few and very expensive.
The cost of housing near the Moscow Ring Road in the region of 30 tr and more often higher.
You can shoot in such cities as Zelenograd, Odintsovo. Get on the Lastochka. Housing from 20tr can be found, often more expensive. The fare in Lastochka (30 minutes to the center of Moscow) goes around 200 rubles + metro around 50 rubles. I could be wrong, I haven't traveled for a long time. Travel cards are cheaper.
In fact, one way from the Moscow region can take up to 2 hours. By car, for example, from Zelenograd to the center of Moscow (only 40 km) you can go 3 and 5 hours. Seriously. But recently it has become better, about 5-7 years ago it was worse.
If they are fed at work, then it’s good, otherwise you can easily give up to 500 rubles for lunch. You can save money, but you will still spend money on all sorts of snacks and coffee along the way.
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If you have small children and a strange city, then most likely you will have to use the services of a nanny from time to time. By the way, about kindergarten - registration is required. In Moscow, no one likes to do it. For money, who cares. On average, 15-20 tr. for six months or more into the hands of the landlord. Kindergartens and schools are cheaper in Moscow and Zelenograd. The fee for a kindergarten in the suburbs is up to 3 times more expensive and up to 2 times in the provinces. Approximately 2500 is a garden in Moscow. Each additional lesson, such as football or robotics, from 1000-1500 for 4-8 lessons per month. Nanny costs from 20-25 tr. and much higher (this is 2 times a week for 4 hours).
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Products. Surprise, but the products are cheaper than in Ryazan or Tver. Why - because in Moscow there is a choice where to buy. In the province, there may be only a couple of chain stores of the Economy class within a radius of accessibility. You take not from what is cheaper, but from what, in principle, is. But in general, the prices are about the same. Fuel too.
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Internet in Moscow is cheaper. Considering that Megafon and MTS have made a breakthrough in speeds, it is quite possible to use mobile Internet in Moscow. The modem gave out quite up to 90-100 megabits. You can get a belimit tariff for 250-300 rubles per month. In regions with an Internet trouble. You have to connect to Rostelecom. The price tag immediately from 500 and above. If Rostelecom falls, then I personally have a day off that day.
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Rent: In Moscow, the rent is paid in one payment, annual resources are scattered over the months. In the regions, for example, they pay for heating only in winter. Moscow in winter and summer.
The average price of a communal apartment for 1 meter according to the all-inclusive system = 122 rubles (everything is here, including gas and the Internet).
For example, if in St. Petersburg there are houses where the overhaul fee is no more than 6 rubles per meter, then in Ryazan the cost of a meter is 15 rubles. Heating is more expensive. Electricity is conditional as in Moscow.
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Entertainment. Not to say that when I lived in Moscow, I just ran around the attraction and clubs. But in Moscow there is a choice. In the provinces, I do not have enough shops, such as Ikea, KFC, etc. If I need something in Moscow at night, I get into the car - I go and buy it. In the provinces, I'm waiting for the weekend to end and morning to come)))
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About the pros: now I live outside the city, I work remotely. Glad not to see traffic jams, people, enjoy the silence. With the same salary that was - did not become richer. Some expenses were gone, others appeared.
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In Moscow 120 tr. the salary is not bad, but in fact this money is also successfully spent, as it is earned. I would go to such a salary from the regions, but definitely not from St. Petersburg.
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And lastly, about Thinking Patterns, that in Moscow everyone gets a fuck.
Here I have a wife in Moscow to receive 140 tr. gets up at 5 in the morning, an hour later stands at the bus stop and goes to the station, then travels for about an hour to the center of Moscow, where he changes to the metro, then walks for another 20 minutes. Work starts at 9 am. at 13:00 he goes to the canteen, where he spends about 300 rubles, in the evening, if he is not asked to stay at the beginning of the seventh, he goes home (in cars where an apple cannot fall). Came home closer to 21:00, ate, an hour later to sleep. Might come out on Saturday. As a result, it takes up to 900 rubles a day just to go to work))
I myself, when I worked in Moscow, could come home late, because they valued work and money. At the end of the week, you feel exhausted.
And at this time in some Zazhopinsk after 18:00 there is nowhere to wash the car and you can’t buy bread, but business whines that they can’t earn money.
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PS: I was in St. Petersburg for a short time. If you have your own apartment in St. Petersburg, then you don’t need to go to Moscow. I think few people will offer three rates. If in St. Petersburg you are rented and you are alone, then why not. See if you can go somewhere later.

Answer 5

At 120 in St. Petersburg you can live well, but in Moscow at 140 not really. Then what's the point?

Answer 6

Under these conditions, a tiny delta does not matter.
It makes sense to leave St. Petersburg only if you hate St. Petersburg, its vile weather and lack of sun.
There is no salary here.