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Doombreaker2019-07-26 14:56:09
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Doombreaker, 2019-07-26 14:56:09

Are there any prospects for a programmer outside Moscow and St. Petersburg?

Is it true that a programmer has no prospects if he does not work in Moscow or St. Petersburg, but in other regions of the Russian Federation? I was looking for which faculty is best to enter and came across a question in a toaster. There is a comment asd111 , in which he said that in the cities of the Russian Federation (except Moscow and St. Petersburg) programmers are not needed. Is it true?

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Sergey Gornostaev, 2019-07-26
@Doombreaker

Not true. Demand is significantly less than in the capitals, but it is still there. And the constant outflow of more or less professional personnel heats up the market quite well and allows regions with low prices to have a larger gap between income and expenses than in Moscow.

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azaza, 2019-07-26
@natojezlo

velociraptors still walk outside the Moscow Ring Road and chip weed

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Konata Izumi, 2019-07-26
@Konata69lol

<sarcasm>There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road. I am writing from the microwave. </sarcasm>
In the millionaire you can find about a dozen medium-sized IT companies or branches and several dozen web/mobile/digital studios.
For more there is a remote

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Northern Lights, 2019-07-26
@php666

I live in a city near Moscowtyts on the map .
Since 2004, as I actively work as a programmer, there was NO work closer than in Moscow, 13 km from home. But 13 km for the Moscow region in the morning is about an hour and a half drive (in winter, all two), due to the enormous traffic congestion.
Everything below, to the left or to the right of my pride on the map - there was NEVER work there . And this is the nearest suburbs, almost the center of Russia! Neither in my city itself, nor in the nearest Domodedovo, Podolsk and further south. At one time I went to Lyubertsy for 25 km. Traffic jams are an inevitable part of life. Gasoline costs are huge. The car needs investment. Now the car has a mileage of 120 thousand km, and the actual number of engine hours (when the engine was running) is 50 times more.
There are no jobs not only outside the Moscow Ring Road, there are no jobs on the outskirts of Moscow either. For example - the south of Moscow. There are a couple of vacancies, I went for an interview, I don’t like something or they didn’t take it and that’s it. All IT work in the center is designed for visitors, for those who are naked like a falcon and roam like gypsies, changing their place of residence. This is the reality of this fucking It.
Of all my friends, I am the only masochist who has chosen this profession. A profession inherent only in million-plus cities. All friends and acquaintances sit close to home, they didn’t kill themselves on this road, they don’t stand in monstrous Moscow traffic jams, and even they go down to the metro once a year (which, by the way, is also packed at rush hour, it’s even worse there than in the car traffic jam).

Is it true that a programmer has no prospects if he does not work in Moscow or St. Petersburg, but in other regions of the Russian Federation?
Open hh and look. I watched. ZP - very small, there are several vacancies for some Voronezh. And if you live on a "collective farm", then there is no chance - either remotely, if you find it, or go to Moscow and give half of the salary for an apartment. If you have your own housing, family and other deterrents on the periphery, it is a very muddy idea to drop everything and go to Moskvabad.
cities of the Russian Federation (except Moscow and St. Petersburg) programmers are not needed
Why are there programmers? Programmers are needed where there are companies that need programmers. Do you think there are many companies in Tver that need programmers? Well, 1s-nicknames may be needed, maybe a couple of web macaques are needed. There, people do not work in offices, do not engage in startups, there are more mundane areas of activity.

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Ronald McDonald, 2019-07-26
@Zoominger

There is no life outside the Moscow Ring Road, that's a fact. All programmers who work remotely or in the offices of other millionaires, all these programmers in local research institutes and freelancers in Nizhny Pereput' are fake.

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Saboteur, 2019-07-26
@saboteur_kiev

What do you mean by career.
In any large city there are IT companies and programmers are needed.
It’s just that the level of salaries is usually not comparable with Moscow time and St. Petersburg, but at the same time it may well be very worthy, especially if you take into account the cost of living and the average non-IT salary in the Russian Federation.
If you take the top 10-20 IT companies in the Russian Federation, you can see that 100% of them have a head office in Moscow.
But it is quite possible to look for a smaller outsourcing company, up to 1000 employees in large regional centers.
In Krasondar they say the food is good, the same Voronezh - DataArt, mail.ru, Reksoft, Nival, SoftLine
In general, instead of a question, just go to hh.ru and other resources, look at vacancies in your city, see which companies are mainly represented there, and already be interested in these companies.

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Daniil Maslov, 2019-07-26
@s0xzwasd

Go the smart way - analyze the job search sites in your city and make a conclusion whether you can find a developer job in a certain direction or not. If possible, it's not true. You can't - it's true. The rest is already secondary things, for example, the number of vacancies, how many potential employees per vacancy, and other nuances.

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Alex-1917, 2019-07-26
@alex-1917

Tell that to the two billion (2'000'000'000) Indians who don't live in the Indian capital.

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Sergey Nizhny Novgorod, 2019-07-26
@Terras

1) The main movement is in Moscow and St. Petersburg - this is true.
2) Then million-plus cities show themselves well: Novosib, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Tomsk. There are offices of large companies, there are strong regional players. Good salary and some movement. However, this is still not Moscow and St. Petersburg - in fact, you will have about 3-5 adequate places for your stack.
3) Remote work, freelancing - this segment is gradually growing. But it will not work - there is some luck and agility. Plus, it's still better to have a "fallback in the form of work on site."

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grinat, 2019-07-27
@grinat

There is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road, there is a great wasteland.

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tutuborg, 2019-07-27
@tutuborg

Every seventh Russian lives in Msk.
Against the backdrop of Moscow time, of course, in other places, programmers are needed much less.
But there are more people competing in Moscow time.
So that's what comes out.

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