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Andrey Silaev2015-02-19 03:38:30
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Andrey Silaev, 2015-02-19 03:38:30

Are the sales statistics of modern CMS correct?

Hello!

I have a very interesting question, I started writing my own CMS after I saw the sales statistics of other systems. For example simplacms - more than 30,000 license sales, umi.cms - even more, etc. I will not talk about Bitrix, it is 100% for sale.

If you multiply the numbers, it turns out that the developers earn incredibly huge money.

But having made my product for 3 months, there was not a single sale. That's the question, maybe the developers come up with numbers, but to wind up their popularity?

And how many real sales do you think SimplaCMS has, for example?

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Menaskop, 2015-02-19
@Menaskop

Good afternoon, here you need to take into account the following:
01. There are approximately 20,000 - 35,000 (probably already more - www.datainsight.ru/howmanyshops ) online stores in RuNet, of which about a third are large, medium and small, but selling well. Byline ok. 5,000 - 10,000, etc., i.e. the number of stores in the Russian-speaking segment is quite limited. But as for the USA, Europe, etc., the number is many times greater there, but the market is already oversaturated.
02. You can take the TOP-100 (there is, for example, a businessman and his daughter - "firm secret") online storefronts and make sure that big players rarely use CMS. At the same time, crayons often use CMS, but free ones: OpenCart, WordPress (Woocommerce, Ecommerce, Eshop), less often - flexible Drupal, etc. Remain average players, a cat. first of all, they are tied to 1C - and here the slow, cumbersome, but hyped and expensive 1C-Bitrix is ​​on horseback. There are also SaaS platforms like pokupo.ru (recently just connected), InSales, etc., cat. already crushing 10 percent of the market.
03. But the main thing: what is the difference between your CMS and competitors? For example, on Drupal you can make any project of almost any complexity; WordPress is easy to learn and has tons of plugins; Joomla - a solution for beginners, etc.? The market, say, 5-7 years ago and now are different things: consolidation has already taken place and the main customers have been distributed, but to pull someone out, you need to go to emerging markets: Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, etc.
04. I am engaged in connecting CMS on payments - https://z-payment.com/cms.php- here, for example, there is a list of those content management systems, cat. connected, I can say that there are not a lot of orders, but they are. Including paid ones. There is one way to develop this: create modules (if not already) for payment systems, make the integration as simple as possible and explain what benefits the store will receive - set up a channel that is actually free. The second way is turnover.ru and so on. trading forums where the stores themselves live and often ask where to start, what CMS to make. Here, of course, it is necessary to represent yourself through the "third person". Finally, you can analyze competitors, identify weaknesses and present everything as market research, eventually highlighting (but only if it's true!) The advantages of your cms and others. People will choose for themselves if it is a worthy product.
Finally, "That's the question, maybe the developers come up with numbers to make themselves popular?" - there is always cheating, to some extent unintentional for sure, even having sold 30,000 copies, you can be in the red, because large CMS is a whole staff of employees (managers, accountants, programmers, etc.). Bitrix, for example, cheating is not very good. needed - he uses himself as a popular by-product, but in my opinion also a by-product.

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Igor Pushkarsky, 2015-02-19
@RainMEN

Here you need to approach not from the point of sale, but from the point of view of who recommended it, because large companies, as mentioned above, do everything for themselves from scratch, small ones are afraid to use something new, they prefer to use Joomla and anything that a student can set up. And the middle ones, these are those who have already sat on Joomla, understood what he needs and how he would like to see it, they start looking, and what can they take, choose 10-20 and start asking acquaintances, friends, native programmers who at least somehow dealt with with these systems or theoretically savvy. Also, many people turn to studios, where they are advised to write sites not on those CRM systems that are beneficial for them, there is an offer for studios, for individual programmers, and those systems on which they can really do it without the slightest effort.
1. Naturally, the presence of plugins is a matter of time, I would even say years.
2. But 10% is what the new CMS needs to strive for, for this you need to write a CMS not from scratch, but use some kind of lightweight framework like CodeIgniter, Laravel.
That is, in order to have the opportunity to earn on the sale of CMS, you need to make sure that others earn on it.
For example, I recently switched from joomla to ImageCMS, because quite complex projects began to come across, you need to add functionality. ImageCMS has 2 versions, 1 is free, which just earns the popularity of this CMS, and the other is paid, with an affiliate program that brings money to everyone who uses it, and minimizes the cost of customers for highly qualified programmers.

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asd111, 2015-02-19
@asd111

I speak as a person who worked with Bitrix.
demo-last.anderseno.ru/admin
Admin is cool, but it's not about her.
demo-last.anderseno.ru - the design should be more modern and juicier, something like this demo43442.myinsales.ru
A lot depends on the design with which the store is sold.
Ideally, the design should be such that without changing the design, you can simply fill it with new products from 1C and get a stylish store.
Those. it needs to be simple but tasteful, like this
www.ecwid.ru/demo#!/iGoods/c/3003/offset=0&sort=normal
At the moment, I see only an almost finished admin panel and a completely empty design of the original template, it is the empty template that scares me away, in which there are no products, no prices - because of this it is difficult to understand that this is a CMS for an online store.
I did not find integration with 1C, the "import goods" button, the "export to Yandex.market" button, I did not find the e-mail distribution.
The better the initial template, the better, because. The design of the store does not always change.
I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the Bitrix admin panel in the small business edition.
True, in this edition they have bad goods (half-naked women, etc.), I think that’s why they will gradually give way to the Yandex.market market - which they themselves began to talk about.

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Sergey Kupriyanov, 2015-02-19
@Sargi

UMI.CMS may add their shareware website builder as a cloud service to the numbers, but it’s incorrect to trumpet this on a boxed CMS website.
Check out Roy for a very good analysis on the credibility of ratings and claims on CMS sites.

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OnYourLips, 2015-02-19
@OnYourLips

But having made my product for 3 months, there was not a single sale.

1. You can’t do something sane for three people for a month.
2. How much money was spent on promotion? A few million won't do.

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Alexander, 2015-02-19
@primat1987

I don't think the numbers are made up. Bitrix generally has excellent marketing, hence sales. The product itself cannot be said to be staggering)
PS Although I have not seen your cms in action, I would not buy it 100%. Firstly, because I would not have found reviews about it on the Internet ... And in general, writing something competitive in 3 months alone is unrealistic.

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Igor Kalashnikov, 2015-02-19
@zo0m

I looked at your CMS and did not understand why I need it?

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Gluck Virtualen, 2015-08-29
@gluck59

Not true. Everyone lies.

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