Are people with managerial education being hired as project managers?

Question

Project management

Good afternoon.

By education: manager of a tourist destination (i.e. organization of the work of hotels, restaurants, casinos and tour companies).
Occupation: web developer.

I talked with HR, she explained to me that without a formal education (technical), the road to more or less large companies, the positions of team leads, scrum managers, and so on, is closed to me. She said that in general it would be possible to try for the position of a product manager or something like that.

Anyone with experience or knowledge. Will such an education be a plus for the position of a product manager, or is it better not to climb without a technical one?

Answer 1

the road to more or less large companies, the positions of team leads, scrum managers, and so on, is closed to me.

You can safely answer the HR manager that his place is maximum in the buffet. I'm serious.
More than one HR manager in a large company does not require / asks for education at all for the position of a team leader.
In the IT sphere, only experience, knowledge and the person himself are important.
I am a team leader, and many of my acquaintances who work in managing teams or projects do not even have a complete secondary education (for example, I have 9 classes and a vocational school - Cook 4 categories and have not studied for the next 20 years.).
Example wb.ru / mail.ru / arndb - these companies employ those who are familiar with 9 or 11 grades of education, without VO, in the positions described above.
Well, another acquaintance has 2 higher specialized education and they don’t take him except as a stupid programmer.
Because little experience and knowledge. Kill 10 years for education and by the age of 30 work for a penny, this is our reality.

Answer 2

Good afternoon, MP is a fairly responsible job and I would not entrust it to a person without experience, so it is very unlikely that you can be hired by another company for this position. They can be hired as an assistant manager or project administrator. What can I recommend:
1. Try to grow in the current company to the desired position. If it doesn’t work, then:
2. While working in the company, take specialized courses in development management or project management (full-time or better a master's degree).
3. Try yourself in Open Source development or volunteering under the condition of opening the source code and the development process, for example, from the beginning to the end of development, conduct all business in GitHub or an equivalent.
4. Find like-minded people and connect them to the project.
In the last few years, I have noticed a trend that the market is no longer very hungry for MP, but more leaning towards cross-functional employees, i.e. you are an MP, but also a programmer / analyst or tester. As for Agile practitioners, in my opinion, you can’t buy anyone with this, the key issue is not that you had Agile in your last job, but that you can build it here with a new team. And just here the 3.4 point can play a key role.
If you have any questions write, contacts in the profile.

Answer 3

Of course, education will be a plus, but they will not close the road.
The knowledge and experience of working as a manager is considered fundamental.
And the same scrum is not taught in institutes. It's just that no one bothers you to take courses, get a certificate and add it to your resume. It is advisable to look at certificates that are more or less listed on the market, although .. again, the main thing is practical skills.
A lot of people don't respect education. But many people forget that 20 years ago there was no universal computer education as such, and therefore people like Bill Gates and Jobs, who started their way into IT then, may well not have any education simply because there was practically no education before them. did not have. Now education in the specialty is certainly not decisive, but it gives a plus, especially in foreign companies.

Answer 4

I had a PM at one job - I graduated from international relations in economy.
Nothing, okay. True, I had to build up technical expertise myself
. Still, everything depends on the internal beliefs of the company and the tasks that are assigned to the PM in the company:
someone forces managers to sell and communicate with the customer, somewhere more important is planning and project management, etc.
In a word, if some do not take, then this does not mean anything.

Answer 5

Yes, everyone should sleep on education in IT, they beat Gates and put Jobs there was no education at all, and that something suddenly became closed to them?

Answer 6

Education does not play a role.
Except in rare isolated cases.