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Vadim Stepanenko2018-06-02 15:36:39
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Vadim Stepanenko, 2018-06-02 15:36:39

Accepting payments without IP?

Hello!
If you open a small marketplace, is it possible for the first time to receive payments (replenishment of users' balance) without registering an individual entrepreneur or LLC, etc.?
What are the risks and what are the penalties?
And are there any alternative ways to bypass IP registration? For example, accept payments through some payment platform, a la robokassa, etc.
PS a question about the first time the site has been working, if there is demand, then of course we will already officially register and arrange everything.

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Roman Terekhin, 2018-06-02
@RomaZveR

In general, there is no concept of "first time" in the laws.
Illegal entrepreneurship, tax evasion can fly in, and, depending on the activity of the marketplace (some goods / activities are licensed), it can also fly.
Platforms ala robomarket are nothing more than schemes for bypassing the purchase of online cash registers, but not bypassing the registration of an individual entrepreneur / legal entity.
The risk is small, especially if the amounts are insignificant, but they can take it in the ass.

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CityCat4, 2018-06-02
@CityCat4

It all depends on what you will do and of course what will be the turnover. If you're Elusive Joe - well, they won't pay attention for a while. If there are good turnovers, they will cover immediately.
There is no concept of "first time" and "last time" in the law. But there is "illegal entrepreneurship", as well as "tax evasion" clearly associated with it :)
Think, as they say for yourself.

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d-stream, 2018-06-02
@d-stream

Article 171 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Illegal Entrepreneurship
1. Carrying out entrepreneurial activities without registration or without a license in cases where such a license is required,
if this act caused large damage to citizens, organizations or the state, or is associated with the extraction of income on a large scale,
except for the cases provided for Article 171.3 of this Code, is punishable by a fine in the amount of up to 300 thousand roubles
, or in the amount of the wage or salary, or any other income of the convicted person for a period of up to two years, or by compulsory works for a term of up to 480 hours, or by arrest for a term of up to six months.
2. The same act:
a) committed by an organized group;
b) associated with deriving income on an especially large scale, is
punishable by a fine in the amount of 100,000 to 500,000 rubles, or in the amount of the wage or salary, or any other income of the convicted
person for a period of one to three years, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to five years, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to five
years, with or without a fine in the amount of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period
of up to six months.
Moreover, "me and my wife" or "me and a designer / SEO specialist" is already an act committed by a group of people ... with all the consequences

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Andrey Gavrilov, 2018-06-03
@thexaver

Unitpay, qiwi, Yandex, and robokassa with the help of them you can safely take on physics

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Sergey Nizhny Novgorod, 2018-06-03
@Terras

Plati.ru - you can sell your goods (balance replenishment keys) on this service, and then withdraw money through web money. Naturally, the risk always remains, but as an option "for the first time" it may be suitable.

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Danil Sapegin, 2018-06-03
@ynblpb_spb

webmoney oddly enough :) they still have the same methods of replenishment for mere mortals who are not registered in the system. withdrawal is convenient, IP is not needed

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