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chichia2015-07-01 23:07:08
Mathematics
chichia, 2015-07-01 23:07:08

What is the direction "Applied Mathematics and Informatics"?

How difficult is it to study there? Will they give the basis necessary for a programmer in this direction? Who can really get a job after graduating from a bachelor's or master's degree in this area?

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Leonid Pavlov, 2015-07-02
@chichia

I chose between PM and a specialty at the Faculty of Computer Engineering at the Polytechnic University (SamGTU). Chose PM. This was before bachelor's and master's degrees. Studied for 5 years. All five years taught different mathematics. There was also programming, but what they taught, I already knew at that time. In general, there is little programming, a lot of mathematics.
Why did you choose PM. Through our parents, we knew people from both faculties and leading departments. Head chair of the PM (as a person) inspired confidence. Went there. In this regard, the choice was fully justified, it turned out to be one of the best teachers I have ever met. He was also the group's curator. There was absolute respect from the group.
The specialty was considered the most difficult. Those who were stronger were selected there. Specially collected good guys from the olympiads, lyceums. We certainly considered ourselves cooler than others (by the way, this unites the group well). During their studies, some of the guys dropped out, perhaps it was hard. Several people defended on 05.13.05 Ph.D. and for some special at Ph.D.
Who went to work. Many worked as programmers during their studies. After graduation, about half of the + group went along the IT line. One person remained to teach mathematics (the specialty allows this). The rest joined the ranks of managers (many are close to IT), etc. Did someone go to do what applied mathematicians are trained for?... I don’t know such guys from our graduation. Only one works with close things.
Is PM useful for programming? Probably not. Such a number of programmers in graduates is explained by the fact that guys with a technical bias, quick-witted, were engaged in computers themselves - the corresponding outcome was natural. Mathematics in programming is used little. There are areas where it is needed (mathematical modeling), but if you see yourself as a web programmer or 1c nickname, then there will be no benefit from it.
What is this specialty for? For the application of a variety of mathematics above the standard level in the very different directions. There are such areas.
I did not really like the fact that in the studied mathematics there is no practical "implementation". I like mathematics, but for many years to learn one, the other, and then another and another ... boring, or something. There is an opinion that "mathematics puts the brain in place." This is largely true.
Is it worth it? Yes, if there is a desire to work in the relevant field. It should be borne in mind that mathematics is "easy" to learn programming (it is more a craft than a science), but the transition back is unlikely to be successful. It is not possible to acquire so much mathematical knowledge on your own. To study specific issues - of course, but to perceive everything as a whole - hardly. If mathematics itself is not so interesting, I would look at majors more focused on programming.

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mamkaololosha, 2015-07-01
@mamkaololosha

The base is given everywhere. It all depends on the teaching staff. At Moscow State University Lomonosov passing 388 points for 4 subjects. There is no specialty "Java programmer at Google for 4 years".

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Saboteur, 2015-07-02
@saboteur_kiev

1. How difficult is it to study there?
Compared to school, it's very difficult.
2. Will they give the basis necessary for a programmer in this direction?
No. Everywhere they give basically a base of algorithms and logic. Modern programming is studied outside the university curriculum.
3. Who can really get a job after graduating from a bachelor's or master's degree in this area?
In this direction - no one. It is better to look for an internship in large companies in the 3rd year and work.

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Espleth, 2015-07-02
@Espleth

How difficult is it to study there?

It really depends on the university. Somewhere it is difficult, somewhere you can freebie.
The question would be from the category "I found a job with the name "Java programmer". Tell me, can I earn a lot of money there?" if not for one "but": nowhere will you be given all the necessary knowledge. A lot of things you have to learn on your own.
Yes, many people. A programmer, a cashier at a McDuck, a mathematician, a janitor. Everything depends on you.

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Alexander, 2015-07-02
@saphire13

I join the fact that the specialty is more mathematics. At least I had something like this: 2 years of math analysis, a year of math. logic, yr equations of mathematical physics, yr differential equations. And almost everything is together. Along the way, graph theory, mathematical statistics, functional analysis plus sets and mappings. Against the background of all this, the study of programming pales. Six months C, then C#. Semester lisp and... everything.
About the base. Well, how can I say ... It depends on what to do. If web programming - there you have your deep knowledge of mathematical analysis, if they come in handy, then the bare minimum. If you go in the direction of developing, for example, cryptosystems - yes there. All this is important and necessary. See what the aspiration is. But in my opinion, although all this knowledge has not been useful to me yet, everything that was taught at the university taught me to think logically and consistently, which is an extremely big plus in any field. In general, in my opinion, this is more either an engineering specialty or a purely scientific one, in which programming is taught only as a tool for calculating something, modeling, etc.
In general, depending on where you direct your eyes :)

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