What is the basis for a smart home to lay at the stage of repair?

Question

Smart House

Good afternoon!
I am planning a major overhaul of the apartment (2ka 51kvm). At the renovation stage, it is possible to lay the foundation for a smart home.
What would you like to get:
- light
control - underfloor heating control
- alarm
- integration of all this
- the possibility of autonomous operation (without the Internet, without a hub, etc.)
- there is not much time to do DIY - I would like to be able to use xiaomi
1 sensors. Which system is better to take as a basis - from the criteria of ease of setup, a wealth of integration opportunities with different hardware vendors: openhub, MajorDoMo, Domoticz?
2. What is better to take to control the light?
Of those options that I found, these are nooLite and delumo. More switches Xiaomi AQARA Wall Switch. What else can you advise?
- we need "passing" switches
- integration with UD -
the ability to work autonomously
- it is desirable to have not only touch but also simple push-button switches .. https://ds-electronics.ru/termoregulyatory/terneo-sx/ Does anyone have experience with them? 4. There are no ideas for signaling yet. I would like the alarm to have a GSM modem, and preferably 2 or Ethernet. It would also be great if both the alarm system and the smart home system could use the same sensors.


I would really appreciate it if you could give me some advice.
PS please don't write about KNX - I don't think I need it.

Answer 1

A year ago, I did repairs in my odnushka, from a smart home I used mainly devices from Xiaomi.
Lighting:
- in the hallway, a Yeelight LED Ceiling Lamp + an opening sensor on the front door, turns on the light when entering and turns it off when leaving + motion sensor, lights up when moving from the room to the kitchen or bathroom + Yeelight dimer (the dimer could not be installed, practically I don’t use it because the lighting is automated) + a temperature and humidity sensor with a screen + a universal socket is mounted and an Aqara hub is inserted into it, which, in addition to the main one, performs the function of a doorbell and an alarm. There is a night light function, after 11 pm a muted yellow light turns on, which does not blind the eyes of those who got up to use the toilet.
- in the bathroom, a double Aqara switch, one line to turn on the light, the second to turn on the hood + temperature and humidity sensor, the hood is controlled by the sensor + 3 motion sensors at the entrance and 2 main zones for automating lighting in the bathroom + 2 leakage sensors, under the washer and at the sink (a couple of times already saved from the flood) + in the box there are two ball valves with an electric drive connected to a double Aqara switch with a zero line and a built-in wattmeter.
- in the kitchen, a double Aqara switch + in a ZigBee chandelier, an Aqara lamp + a Yeelight tape as kitchen lighting + a motion sensor + a leakage sensor between the sink and dishwasher + a smoke sensor. The right button of the switch lights the main light, the left lamp in the chandelier, and double pressing controls the LED strip. During the day, the main light is switched on by the sensor, under the condition of low illumination, at night after 11, a chandelier with a subdued light is switched on.
- the room is divided into 2 zones, a living area and a bedroom. In the living room, the Aqara double switch controls the main light of the living room and bedroom, in the bedroom there are spotlights from Xiaomi and Philips, in the wall sconces of Xiaomi and Philips lamps + there is a Mijia button by the bed to control the lighting, one press turns on / off the light in the living room, double click in the bedroom, and a long press turns off the light in the entire apartment + two wi-fi sockets from the Tuya Smart system are installed, they are not connected to the general system, but are controlled using Yandex Station and Alice, in fact, like all lighting. The Xiaomi robot vacuum cleaner also lives in the living room, also part of the Smart Home)
There are moments that I did not do at the repair stage, and now I regret it. Most saddening is the inability to adjust the brightness of spotlights in the bathroom, kitchen and living room, night light is a necessary and convenient thing. I would also make a conclusion under the drive of an automatic cornice, during the repair process I considered this function a waste of money, but as practice has shown (friends have a cornice from Xiaomi), the thing is very convenient).
The ceiling lamp is as follows:
Aqara switches:
Smoke detector:
Opening
detector: Motion detector:

Answer 2

Run additional wires to the points where the sensors could be, at least a 4-core ethernet, you can connect hardware with POE for 100 Mbps and not only, as far as I remember, there are a bunch of sensors that, according to the standard, are connected to a thin KSPV 4x0.5 (for example from the security alarm) and so, at short distances, the ethernet wire will also roll (although they write that it is better to do shielded).
Regarding WHERE to plan the sensor connection points, a question from the questions. For example, install surveillance cameras, a couple per room (no one forces you to connect ALL of them, but opportunities in the future will appear thanks to this).
You can do everything else AFTER the repair, but replacing the wiring is the dirtiest job, it requires climbing walls, under wallpaper and stretch ceilings.
More about lighting, definitely if you need a normal one, it’s hard to come up with a dimmable LED. So, if you run a separate 12v wiring (preferably 24v) and install power supplies BEFORE the switches, i.e. they will work on an ongoing basis and the switches are already connected to the light at 24v, then you can add dimming almost in your rack with power supplies, i.e. any format of equipment, any schemes, etc. you will be free and not limited in the choice of components, even such a thing as the cooling of powerful power supplies - it is noisy, and it is not advisable to place it in the same bedroom.
Otherwise, you will be limited in choosing EXPENSIVE power supplies with dimming support, plus constant start-stops adversely affect the PSU.

Answer 3

The answer is off topic.
Are there so many unnecessary bells and whistles in an apartment of 51 squares? Here Xiaomi has a feature in their smartphones - air conditioning control via ir. Here it is, the topic.
In fact, you will be so drawn into the repair routine that you will dream of how to finish it quickly and not spend money.
1) why automate a warm floor? Well, to be completely honest, you can use compact wifi sockets there. A smart floor is a fairly lightweight device in itself. You can set the floor to be warm on weekday mornings, and at any other time. Case, when you are driving home and you need a warm floor right away - no.
2) Light control. No kidding, but an ordinary walk-through switch is much more useful than all this garbage in a real apartment. How many of your friends have played with led rgb strips and then thrown them far away? But think about high-quality lighting - that's what's important. And most importantly - an electrician under this case.
3) by sensors - you are talking about different game sensors, but you don’t have a gas sensor, a tap leak sensor, and others in your question. and believe me, if one of these events happens, it will not be very cool.
I speak based on the fact that I did repairs at my place 2+ years ago, and my thoughts were the same - to modernize everything and everything. but it was limited to a good projector in the hall))) Well, a comfortable arrangement of lamps with a subzone. And everything else is just toys, and expensive ones. well, except for the alarm, but there it is a whole complex and can be expensive.
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Answer 4

Recently completed renovations everywhere except the kitchen. Pushed everywhere where he could twisted pair.
The motion sensors are normally placed, the light can be turned off centrally everywhere.
But I still forgot to run the cable under the speakers, some rj45 sockets had to be cut in half by connecting to one cable, and the usual 220 extension cords still appeared (although it seemed that there were enough sockets in each corner).
Ideally, we would make a cable channel everywhere and play as you like there. But the wives will not allow it, they will say: Like in the office!
This is all to the fact that even knowing your needs it is difficult to foresee everything at the repair stage.

Answer 5

So, we work with just such projects, that's what I advise.
- it is most pleasant to control the light with switches from xiaomi
- a warm floor - a z-wave thermostat, if you really need it. Usually there is little point in managing a warm floor.
- alarm is fully implemented on xiaomi sensors. A UPS is installed for brains, a hub and a router for autonomous operation.
- integration of everything in home assistant. Automation, beautiful interface, application for ios.
If there are questions, there is a mail on the site. If you need it on a turnkey basis, we can do it, according to approximate calculations, the “optimal” package for 49990 will do. Earthome.ru

Answer 6

The most optimal solution is crestron, on eBay a used cp2e processor for $30 + $40 delivery by an intermediary, panels 750 for $100 + $50 delivery, any switches that only work like Bosch buttons for 800 rubles. , we take any signaling with integration over rs-232/485 with a description of the commands. You can connect the Internet and manage from a cell phone (you need a white IP). Somoe hemorrhagic with a setting, because minimal knowledge is required, but you can watch videos on the Internet and learn the basic level of the simpl graphic language in a week. You can integrate all remotes from devices and so on, just everything by wire.

Answer 7

I have lighting control on the noolite system (with motion sensors, with a schedule for switching on, control via phone, touch switches in convenient places).
+ The same system: water leakage (turns off the water supply). And in the future - automatic watering.
As practice has shown, many devices are not needed.
The house is bigger than your apartment ;)

Answer 8

I can recommend the Repair Association.
A good company https://remont-kvartir-v-msk.ru/ and the prices are low and they will do everything for you on a turnkey basis.