What is happening in the labor market in IT?

Question

Career in IT

Good afternoon everyone!

I am a humanities student and have nothing to do with IT. I began to get acquainted with information technologies in order to obtain additional tools in my field. If you google a couple of times any technical question other than assembler, then the bombardment of all kinds of courses with advertisements begins. And this, perhaps, is normal, there have always been some left-wing courses pumping out money. But here's what confuses me, this is a common opinion about an easy entry into IT, even for some reason they wrote in in-house data analysis courses that a six-month python course with libraries is a start in IT.

Thus, the essence of my question is the following - what does this very start really look like for a programmer, that is, what should this person do in general? Is there a real problem of the labor market being loaded with people from courses? Do they generally get a job in a new specialty? Have real industrial programmers noticed any change in their work after the hype around their profession?

If you know any research on the labor market in IT, please share)

All the best

Answer 1

Type in Google the query "IT personnel shortage", the issue will contain a lot of publications of serious publications explaining why salaries of IT specialists increased by 30% over the summer. For example , one , two , three and four . Naturally, the prospect of getting half a million for sitting in front of a computer clouds the heads of the townsfolk and they are looking for a way to make their dream come true. Naturally, a whole bunch of information gypsies appeared, ready to spud these naive dreams. Only courses will not make anyone a programmer in six months, and starting in IT is not at all easy.

Answer 2

Is there a real problem of the labor market being loaded with people from courses?

No. I worked in many places and wander around in different areas, but out of 3-4 hundreds of IT specialists, I have not seen a single one who would complete some courses and then move to IT. Kursiki is a tax on stupidity.

Answer 3

Worked in several places. There was not-not 1 person who came from the courses. Among acquaintances of acquaintances, no one is recognized.
IT courses are a kind of test for a debil. Because if you can’t get knowledge from the Internet yourself, then this profession is not for you.

Answer 4

A person is either fit for it or not. I recently took on an intern after graduating. According to the theory, whatever you ask, he knows everything: both patterns and frameworks. But the simplest practical tasks cause difficulties - at least a stake on your head, for the life of you. Driven in the end, like 100 people before.
And another time it happened that a taxi driver came to me with his pet project with almost no education at all: so - a local technical school. I winced but gave him a paid test. And how he went to work - just give tasks. Then a larger office bought it from me very quickly.

Answer 5

If you like IT, then it's easy to enter. If not, it's very difficult. Here on the service there is a constant whining about how much you need to know to get a job, and they ask what to study instead of taking and studying.
Based on my experience, I believe that with a good workload and a good teacher, you can become a junior in half a year, but there is no such thing in the courses.

Is there a real problem of the labor market being loaded with people from courses?

take a lot of time from the programmers who piss them off

Answer 6

In programming, there is a very large percentage of independent creative work and the ability to work on yourself in order to improve your skills.
It requires certain habits, perhaps a mentality. And the problem is that these habits are usually already formed by the age when you start working. Irrevocably.
Therefore, courses can give some knowledge, but if you are not the right person, it will be extremely difficult to master the profession and adequate work. Talk about burnout - 90% is when a person not disposed to the profession mocked himself first in the courses, then at some job, and then tired. Because the soul does not belong to such a way of life. Yes, of course there is when a person works for wear and tear, but again, an adequate person should pay attention to this in time.
And as for lightness - no, it's not easy at all. And if 10 years ago it was much easier, now it has become 10 times more difficult. Requirements have risen, competition among juniors has risen.
It is clear that any sheep can get a job in IT. It means there is a chance. And in enterprises there is always a place when the position paid by the customer has already been paid, and the team copes regardless of the fact that there is a ram in the team. And he can work there for quite some time until they kick him out, because the team is doing well, but the manager doesn’t care. But this is an exception to the rule, and such cases are rare. And such cases excite young people, and then they can talk about them "how I was a loser yesterday, and now I work in a large international company, earn thousands of dollars and do nothing."

Answer 7

No problem. There are several complications.
1. ZP. Now Sberbank has killed the market with its inflated prices. Gaining almost everyone in a row 30-40% higher than the market - removes competition. But at the same time every half a year, a year - it cleans. As a result, even not the most "smart", specialists, having worked a little for Gref, begin to consider themselves gurus. And after another purge, starting to look for a new place, they forget to take off the crown. For example, I never take those who worked in Sberbank in the past.
2. Scatter by level of knowledge. Even at Junior, the discrepancies in knowledge and experience are so large that it takes more than one month of interviews to search. Although everything is beautiful in the questionnaires.
3. Due to the huge number of proposals, HR employees do not look at the entire volume of resumes, respectively, most of the candidates do not reach the direct customer. At my request, more than 120 applications came overnight, the HR specialist took the first 25 to work, all the rest were in the furnace.
Conclusion. Take into account all the features and make an effort to find a job. And the most important thing. For many, especially beginners, IT is fashionable, beautiful, high salaries. In practice... coding industrial applications (not teen web resource covers) is a tedious, tedious task. At the same time, there is a high responsibility (especially for Mission Critical applications) .. so many, realizing this, are quickly blown away and leave. There are really specialists who can and want to do it. Good luck!

Answer 8

I will highlight two points that for some reason always go out of focus:
1) there are a bunch of books / courses, for example, on mathematics or programming there - everything is about the same there, they differ, except perhaps in the presentation of the material or format (well, someone likes receive "homework" and pay 100k per month for it - please).
2) none of these books by itself will make you a mathematician or a programmer. For example, there is a book - "The Art of Boxing" in 3 volumes - it's probably stupid to think that after reading it you will become a professional boxer and be able to earn a million dollars for fights like Mike Tyson, but promising such fantasies is easier to sell courses or books (people's naivety is simply surprising )
P.S.
it depends only on you (your talents / invested work) whether you become someone or not, and it doesn’t matter what courses or books you choose.

Answer 9

In the IT market, there is a very large shortage of personnel in principle. There are many reasons for this, from the crown, which has created a niche for new solutions for all kinds of services, to the fact that Russian IT specialists are quite cheap for foreign customers from more developed economic countries. And the complexity of the start itself depends on the chosen area in IT or on a specific technology. Trite for 3 vacancies of a front-end developer, there is 1 vacancy for a .Net developer. At the same time, the level of entry into the front and the back is basically different, both in terms of the level of knowledge and the requirements of recruiters. I am generally silent about the managerial layer. If you want to say "Enter IT", try to at least find out what IT is in general and what kind of specialists are there. And for all kinds of courses, I singled out 3 types for myself. 1) Typical infogypsies, which are advertised by every near-IT channel. For some relatively small amount of money they offer you material of the level of Head First books and live according to the principle "Fucker is not a mammoth". Do not forget, the Russian people have always loved to fuck their neighbor. 2) All sorts of pools from Sberbank, where, as others have already said, they will simply rape you, using copies of real projects in training. Feelings are doubtful at first, but after that there will be a contract on galleys in the same company, and experience that you are unlikely to get anywhere except for real projects. 3) Courses of the type "Our students are employed in 100% of cases." Such courses are really interested in you getting a job as an IT specialist, since you will have a financial debt to them in the amount of almost a full university education, or within 2-3 years you will give a percentage of your salary. Such companies prepare you for typical routine tasks in the company without going into subtleties. And they also teach you to go through social security, lie correctly on your resume and justify your lies, write fake companies in your resume for which you "worked" on GPC. Well, plus a community of courses that share experience and help with social security.
Because of this, there are a lot of resumes from such "IT people". Only one pleases, the more stupid, the easier it is to be smart.

Answer 10

Do not be afraid, teach, try, climb, try. IT is given neither by education, nor by courses, nor by coaches, but by banal diligence and patience. No programmer is smarter than you, he just spent a lot of time learning.
In books that you can download online for free and in free videos on YouTube, there is much more than in paid courses for 100k rubles and more. The question is that either you sit, study and try, or not.

Answer 11

If you have some kind of propensity for IT, then it looks easy, if not, then the start is approximately the same as in most professions from the top 50 in terms of salaries

Answer 12

what does this very start really look like for a programmer, that is, what should this person do in general?

explore the base

Answer 13

Pass the course, arrogance + perseverance. Done