Ubuntu + Kali Linux Repos?

Question

linux

Interested in the opinions of people who understand the issue, what could be potential problems if you add Kali Linux turnips to Ubuntu and install, for example, the kali-linux or kali-linux-full metapackage?
Because these packages pull a bunch of dependencies, I care how well they deploy in ubuntu and whether they will make sudden crap changes in the system or whether they will leave a bunch of orphan trash due to incompatibility with ubuntu. The first thing that comes to mind from what may be a problem is that kali is now based not on ubuntu, but on debian, but, as far as I know, debian uses the init mechanism to start services, while ubunt uses upstart, won't there be problems with automatic deployment and the correct prescribing of all settings and services? I think there are other subtle points, what do you think?

Answer 1

Apparently, no one had such experience, so I decided to practice on cats and drive on a virtual machine. The short conclusion is this - this is a disastrous business.
Problems start immediately after adding reps and the first update / upgrade - finds a bunch of updates of installed packages, cannot verify their authenticity, offers to update at your own peril and risk:

"WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
…
Install these packages without verification?”

Periodically swears at the lack of public keys, etc., the update ends with a dpkg error, several unupdated packages remain, subsequent various attempts to update them do not solve much, there is always something broken, not updated, not found, etc. ... After that, the update manager refuses to function normally, it constantly finds something not updated, offers to update, ends with an error. However, the system as a whole seems to continue to work, even after rebooting there are no special problems (except for problems with updates) ...
Everything changes when they comeyou try to install the kali-linux metapackage, and everything changes literally before your eyes and for the worse - in the process of deploying ~ 4 gigs of packages, the system interface changes noticeably: the scrollbar and window title disappear from the console window, the dashboard and the top panel with the clock disappear, as a result almost everything is installed and also not completely, and after rebooting you will see a mutilated authorization screen, after which a virgin clean and empty desktop will appear and only the wallpaper will remind you that you are in ubuntu ... From this moment on, the system can be considered solemnly killed and even switching in a text terminal instead of a prompt will show you a blank screen.

Answer 2

geeksmagazine.org/post/413/kak-ustanovit-vse-instr...

Answer 3

Hmm, I have Debian testing turnips connected to ubuntu and mint. I remember that last time in 2010 I caught apt’s desire to download and replace all system utilities and, accordingly, the very method of loading a distro from init ...
In any case, you can add turnips and see what it offers to download and replace ...
+ If only utilities that are run by hand are needed, in theory, they should not climb into the launch system.

Answer 4

Launch the virtual machine and check!

Answer 5

You can also try using chroot to keep both systems in one

Answer 6

Not worth it. Even when upgrading from one release to another, ubuntu will provide you with enough bugs to make the system unusable (that's what ubuntu used to do). Even when upgrading from alpha to beta, I caught a lot of problems (including those related to incorrect repositories and blocking daemons).
As a conclusion - I would not advise connecting the repositories of the latest version to the stable release. Perhaps the system will not be bent - but you will probably get some compatibility problems.
PS I know that linux failure is primarily a linux user's problem. And that everything can be fixed. But, unfortunately, fixes with such upgrades take longer than reinstalling the distribution and restoring all programs.

Answer 7

Do not do this! After updating ubunta, I began to consider myself kali (grub turned black and instead of ubuntu it began to show kali linux, load failsafeX, and not load unity even after startx)