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diep_onbewust2020-05-18 11:54:00
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diep_onbewust, 2020-05-18 11:54:00

Should I switch from windows 10 to linux?

Hello. Recently I took a laptop for work, characteristics:
intel pentium 4417u 2.3 GHz
RAM 4gb ddr4
hard drive hdd 500gb Installed
Windows 10, turned off windows defender, turned off all statistics collections, animations, deleted unnecessary pre-installed applications so that the laptop was at least a little less stupid. As a result, it helped a little, but sometimes the hard drive is loaded at 100, and I don’t really want to understand this. If I install some kind of Linux distribution, can I get a stable and fast enough work in a browser, Word and similar not very difficult tasks?

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Artem @Jump, 2020-05-18
@diep_onbewust

No, it's not worth it.
You need to add memory up to 8GB and install an SSD

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Alexey Cheremisin, 2020-05-18
@leahch

Well, like this. I've been on Linux for 20 years now (yes, I'm old as mammoth shit, but not really).
1) I recommend installing Linux as a second system, since this will not cause any dissonance.
2) Try to work in it. There will be discomfort, strong. You will have to change habits, study the command line and find alternative programs.
3) Of course, 4GB is not enough for comfortable work, but it is enough with skillful use.
Further.
If you are a developer, then Linux has everything for this, starting from a bunch of all sorts of IDEs (fortunately, they are almost the same as on Windows) and ending with docker / libvirt. All together greatly facilitates development. With an admixture of the command line, and also, for example, with a tal manager like I3, the performance will be very high, though over time. To go back to Windows is to morally break yourself.
If you just want to play around and your work is graphics.design, it's best to stay on Windows and use Linux from time to time.
Why I love Linux.
- all at your fingertips, literally.
- a bunch of desktops (as in OSX), I still don’t understand why Microsoft doesn’t implement this into its GUI in any way, and shells like HP Launch for windows 3.11 were still in 1995.
- all development tools were originally created for the command line and everything from the unix world
- there is practically nothing to replace the command line, and 40 years of unix development made it just magical.
- a lot of editors for plain text, starting from VI / Emacs, and ending with the same gedit. all this with syntax highlighting, autocomplete and other goodies
- everything comes out of the box, no need to crawl through sites, download dubious programs
- no viruses and security - I use inkscape for pictures. Yes, I still have a couple of macbooks and an iMac, but I am writing this text from an ultrabook asus s. OSX is slightly better in terms of usability, but it doesn't have I3.
- virtualization like docker / libvirt, deploy. try a new system - 5-10 minutes, even Windows .
- well, the preparation of documentation, I love pandoc and text markdown. The output is beautiful PDFs that can be stored under git/mercurial.

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Alexander Talalaev, 2020-05-18
@neuotq

Most probably not. The browser itself still requires 4+ RAM today. This is during active work, if there are several tabs, heavy sites, etc.
Well, either work in one window. Those are either a browser with one or two tabs. You need a Word, closed the browser and only there you do things.
Disk loading is due to caches / swaps, in fact, the main reason is little RAM, and coupled with a slow disk, this leads to brakes. So either mitigate the transition to ssd or add RAM (or better, both).
There will be no super fundamental difference between win and Linux in this regard, since the sites and browser engines are about the same, so the main eating element will remain. You can of course install a lightweight shell and so on. But again, with active work, many tabs will be the same. There is no escape from this.
You now have two bottlenecks at once: the minimum necessary RAM and a slow hard drive.
PS Windows Defender does not greatly affect the work, I would not turn it off.

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Sergey Pankov, 2020-05-18
@trapwalker

Oh, and I will now express the opposition point of view.
I put my sister on an old Ubuntu laptop and she does not know grief. Browser (firefox), movies, children study remotely - all this pulls.
Yes, there is a problem with the office. However, for domestic needs, Google cloud solutions are enough for me and my relatives personally. If Googledox suits, then you can score on Windows.
You are right about the SSD. This will dramatically improve performance. True, I would not be surprised if Windows manages to load it at 100% full time. Why is this happening. Apparently the main stupidity is precisely because of that.
Moreover, on a laptop with 8 gigs of operatives, Windows 10ka is also stupid with 100% disk usage for some hell.

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Dmitry Pavlov, 2020-05-18
@Stalker31

To begin with, I would advise you to install libre office on the top ten and if working in it suits you, think about switching to linux.

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anikavoi, 2020-05-18
@anikavoi

As a Linux user, I don't recommend it.
1. There is no Word under Linux, and you will have to get used to alternative packages in a new way. There is a difference, and at first it angers.
2. The browser under Linux behaves almost the same.

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iliakot, 2020-05-18
@iliakot

Move on!)))
I still have a "combat" laptop Core2duo, 4gb, ssd as a system laptop and a regular one for data ... Work mainly office and various special applications like Altova xml spy, Enterprise Architect ... Plus RDP or VPN... A dozen in a clean installation with all the updates eats up half of the resources and periodically loads the screw by 100%...
For the sake of experiment, I installed several different versions of Linux - now I settled on the latest version of UBUNTU. Environment adjusted to mac os. I don’t experience any inconvenience, it works many times faster. The only negative for me is that I did not find an rdp client for Linux that would support multiple monitors. Otherwise - no problems.

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Janus_Bora, 2020-05-18
@Janus_Bora

I'm 80 percent Linux, and have no trouble browsing the web.
Up to 5 tabs + gimp + sublime text. (I have 4GB in total)
Workload 80-90 (memory). Swap ok. 1.5 GB.
HDD notebook 8 years ago 5400 rpm with all the consequences.
But! But, but, but... It all works after dancing with a tambourine. Well, plus I generally got rid of the graphics to the maximum. It's not for the sake of performance. I just don't like it. It is clear that the browser and in general everything that requires gui works as it should... You can, of course, use a text browser and use vim... But I'm a fan of minimalism, not an idiot. XD
So, in order not to add heytnrov linukh I will say: sit on Windows. Linukh is needed either by specialty or by vocation)))

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suicide_sky92, 2020-05-18
@suicide_sky92

Try to put it, they don't kill for it. Whomever is it for free, mb generally then you don’t want to return. Ubuntu latest version download and try.

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Gambit86, 2020-05-18
@Gambit86

Five years ago, I installed a fresh version of Linux Mint at that time. Works stably to this day. I don’t remember any special problems that can’t be solved by searching the Web and copy-paste ...

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Kosoi54607, 2020-05-18
@Kosoi54607

Xs is already technical masturbation or crabbing to work on such hardware in the 21st century, Lunux will give an increase of a maximum of a gigabyte of difference compared to the OS itself, and the programs do not care in what environment they run, they consume their share of RAM, in any case, there are no miracles

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Maxim Yakimov, 2020-05-18
@yakmax

Buy memory, ssd, and put linux there!

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Gadzhi, 2020-05-19
@A4ishka

If you are not a gamer and there is no need for design programs, then I don’t see any reason to use Windows at all. For a beginner, I recommend the Manjaro distro. Up-to-date and friendly.

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Dmitry Zhemchuzhnov, 2020-05-19
@alphaDzhem

Now I'm working on an old laptop. Proc core 2 some, 4 GB of RAM, no ssd. It's running Lubuntu 20.04. Works great! I can’t say that the speed is amazing, but the seven that stood before is doing just that.
If there is not enough RAM, then you can configure zram. This does not cause any difficulties.
For those who really need MS Office on linux, there is wine and playonlinux.
In general, it is possible to live and even more so work with linux, and after the formation of a habit, it is very pleasant. You can always turn off what you don't need, turn on what you need, customize it for yourself. What can not be said about Windows.
Yes, there is something that you can’t do conveniently without Windows. This applies to some special software for professionals (graphics, 3d, video editing, development under windows, etc.), but the pros already know about it.
I think that for the average user linux is a great option.
Ps: it is still very important for me that I update the OS when I need it, and not when it wants to. On Windows, this is not so easy to achieve ;-))

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Mikhail Shevtsov, 2020-05-18
@mshewzov

Remove the launch rights from the CompatTelRunner.exe file and the zhor will go away.

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me21, 2020-05-19
@me21

You have already been told everything about the advisability of the transition, installing an SSD and the amount of RAM, and you can figure out the brakes in the resource monitor, see which processes access the disk and which files.
With my laptop there was a similar situation on a corporate license, when there was a search for updates, the search service indexed the hard disk, and the video card driver scanned the system for installed games - the system got up with a stake. Disabling game search and search service has greatly improved the situation.

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Pavel, 2020-05-19
@pdragon

I think yes, since win10 requires an ssd and without it it’s hellishly stupid, and Linux will not be so stupid, the speed will be like on win7 if the disk is not killed in the trash

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schokoro, 2020-05-19
@schokoro

The question itself is incorrect. It is necessary not to change the system, but to increase the memory. The disk is loading due to lack of memory. The system dumps from memory to disk everything that has not been used for a long time, for example, browser tabs that have not been opened for a long time and running programs that have not been accessed for a long time. Accordingly, when you access these tabs or programs, they are loaded from disk into memory again.
In Linux it will be a little better, but you will not notice any cardinal changes. Therefore, consider whether you are ready to change the ecosystem to which you are accustomed for the sake of a slight increase in productivity.

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aglgl, 2020-05-19
@aglgl

At work, I set up a laptop with 4 GB of memory on a mangaro, cutting off everything that is possible there. Compared to win10, it became possible to work adequately. But you have to keep track of the RAM memory. Swap is better off. If you make 8 GB of memory, then it will be generally good.
The answer is this. Looking for what kind of work.
Depending on how much you rummage in linux.

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Vyacheslav Utenkov, 2020-05-20
@avalspro

Definitely install Linux. I have a laptop with 16 gigs of RAM and a 4-core processor on the "Ten" sagged on nonsense. Prots was constantly busy with something. Constantly downloaded updates in the background. The operatives were occupied more than 4 gigs just with a view of the desktop.
Installed Linux Mint. Doesn't heat up, doesn't slow down. Operatives from the force are occupied 3 gigabytes and this is with a large number of tabs in the browser. You don't need to install any antivirus. One inconvenience is the office. It does not quite correctly display complex formatted documents, but this is not critical, since the main work goes through the browser.

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AliaksandrVorakh, 2020-05-20
@AliaksandrVorakh

The question of switching to another OS (Linux) is better to start with another problem.
Will I be able to use my work tools on Linux?
Will I be able to support my devices? If you are a happy owner of Apple products and you actively use iTunes, then you will need to install iTunes on an emulator or virtual machine under Windows.
Plus, if you like to play during your breaks, chances are your favorite game won't be available on Linux.

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guglovich, 2020-05-22
@guglovich

You don’t need to upgrade a lot of mind, anyone can advise on Winda to feed her glutton forever. In fact, I have a second computer on Athlone 2005 and hd5670 more or less adequately worked on Arch + xfce4, and when I added the most deshman SSD, it generally flies on Chromium OS. Surfing for the eyes.

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Maxim Yaroshevich, 2020-05-28
@YMax

And only one word repeats Aibolit: "SSD, SSD, SSD!!!" - we change the disk, if necessary - we achieve the maximum memory, how much the laptop supports and enjoy the fast work. Switching to Linux in this situation is definitely not worth it.

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Konstantin, 2021-08-31
@webmaster

1) yes, switching to Linux makes sense, you can just try to install linux even as a second OS, in parallel with windows. And work for 1-2 weeks, you will understand how that.
2) you can try to install windows 10 with unnecessary functionality in the form of telemetry, etc., spit out at the file level.
The Windows 10 distribution kit is called Ameliorated - https://ameliorated.info/
Installing the system on an SSD will additionally speed up the work.

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