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Ivan Karabadzhak2012-02-15 15:38:23
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Ivan Karabadzhak, 2012-02-15 15:38:23

Should I stop going to classes and go to work?

The situation is the following. I study at the Regional State Academy of Arts (Odessa State Academy of Cold, Ukraine) in the third year, IT specialty "Computer systems and networks". I get a promotion, but it's still boring to study. As a freelancer I have $100-400 per month.

There is an option to get a Junior ASP.NET programmer. I haven’t been to the interview yet, my friend is calling me there, to himself. He works there. Says I'm good for them. If I ask for $500, they won't refuse.

Should I stop going to classes and go to work? The office promises to let you go for exams.

Resolved:
Weighed all the "+" and "-". I stay in school. I'll push on freelancing and I will have a stable $ 500 per month :).

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@sledopit, 2012-02-15
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Are you called there exclusively for a full-time job with no other options? If yes, then it would be better to refuse. It is better to find a part-time job. In my opinion, the optimal mode for a student is 20-30 working hours per week with a flexible schedule so that you can show up at the university for important classes and laboratory classes.
It’s not a fact that if you start maliciously breaking through the university, you won’t fly out at the very first session: no offense will be said to you, most (! = all) excellent students (judging by your university) are not able to prepare for successful exams in a short time.

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izmalk, 2012-02-15
@izmalk

Decide what study will give you and what work will give you.
Studying can give a chance to shine in front of major recruiters before graduation (olympiads and nominal scholarships for programmers are just what head hunters pay attention to).
The work will give MUCH more experience and knowledge in the practical field. You will better understand what to study to move forward, what you like to do, etc.
So decide what is more important for you - practical experience, or academic success. On the one hand, having gone to work right away, you won’t get into a cool position, and POSSIBLY (but not necessarily) continuing your studies to the maximum will allow you to immediately take a star from the sky (a programmer at Google, Microsoft, etc. to taste). Especially in the presence of postgraduate studies, competitions, grants, etc.
On the other hand, a talented programmer, even without a tower, will gain experience and break out to heights corresponding to his ambitions. In this case, it is important to be able to sell yourself at a higher price (again, for example, no one canceled participation in competitions, but already according to an individual program, and not from a university).
From the point of view of obtaining knowledge at a university, you will learn twice as slowly as you could yourself, this is for sure for everything except academic or scientific heights (it all depends on the teaching staff).

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Anatoly, 2012-02-15
@taliban

If you don’t study at all, then it’s probably worth it, but if you still study, then this is already a moot point.

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MaxUp, 2012-02-15
@MaxUp

In my third year, I would have already left for work. After the second half of my second year, I began to appear in universities only at exams or when they were called to participate in olympiads from the university. In the first 2 courses they give general information for general development (I find this useful). + What-no, but connections. And when after that there is an in-depth study in IT, and here we rarely give normal knowledge anywhere now. Much more can be obtained at work.

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a3x, 2012-02-15
@a3x

1) If your last name is Zuckerberg, then of course you can no longer study.
2) As mentioned above, you need to work part-time. And to score on study in moderate doses and without harm to the main specialty.
3) Go to part-time and work full time and study full time twice a year.
I checked 2) and 3) on myself and everything seems to be the way.

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dodarium, 2012-02-15
@dodarium

Difficult-philosophical question you left. I don't understand how anyone can recommend something. We will advise, and then you live with this choice. So do not listen to anyone and go to work already. :)
Now it's only the beginning of the semester and you have 1-1.5 months left, if you feel that you can't pull the university and work, then just leave your job.

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Rowdy Ro, 2012-02-15
@rowdyro

Some universities have a rule that a student of the 3rd and more senior years can take a special program if the work is related to study (ie, not a courier). Was in mine.
When in my 3rd year I was hired as a junior coder for as much as $600, I joyfully ran to the dean, who broke me off - a special program is given only when working at a research institute, and there students are paid $100-150 with an interference.
I decided to take a chance and really did not regret it - the first semester I fell on 3-4. But then he got into a rhythm. At work, I learned many times more than at the university - it was very easy to study.
Of course, the employer should be in a position and not interfere with studying (hourly waiting for teachers at the door, breaking from the office to the university, etc.) - they didn’t bother me.
But after the diploma, my salary was 2-3 times higher than that of fellow students who had “rewound the full term”.

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Godless, 2012-02-15
@Godless

What course? I started working on the 4th year, I do not regret it, but! I combined, and at the same time gave priority to study. Like it or not, but after the release, there is nothing more to show, except for the crust and experience.
In general, I agree that the question is very personal and philosophical. But there are 2 important aspects after studying:
1. Diploma, especially if red, then knowledge must match.
2. Experience. It is work in production, this is teamwork, and finished projects, and so on. As one of our teachers said at the university, “you need to feel it with your hands”.
Everyone decides for himself what is more important. Personal opinion - you need to work, but so that it does not interfere with your studies. I will also say that everything, absolutely everything that I have ever studied at school, university and on my own - everything was useful to me later. But, again, this is not the case for everyone. So use your time wisely, learn while there is time.
If, as in my case, work is necessary, work. Freelancing is a great place to work, first of all, in terms of time. Working for the firm is also very good in terms of experience.
What to choose? I think it is necessary to make some personal priorities, what you will gain by working, and what by studying, and what you will lose accordingly too.
You have a really difficult task ahead of you. You did the right thing by asking for advice.
And finally: make such a decision that in 5 years, you will not suddenly say “I shouldn’t have done this then.”
I wish you success!

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try4tune, 2012-02-15
@try4tune

I did that at the time. From the 2nd year I transferred to part-time and went to work. And now I am very glad that I made such a decision then. Work gave me much more experience and knowledge than study. True, even before university, I was very fond of development and programming.

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Stdit, 2012-02-15
@Stdit

The best way out is to agree with all possible teachers that you will just take the exam. Or turn it in early. As a last resort, go to the correspondence form. Free time to spend on work, agree on a "leaky" schedule. You need to finish your studies for many reasons, especially if you have plans to migrate. Beginners (here, in the Russian outback) on average receive $ 500 after graduation, in a year or two about $ 1000, further depending on success and qualifications.

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Fashion, 2012-02-15
@Fashion

I combined without problems. I won’t say that it was hard, on the contrary, the knowledge that I received at work helped me easily pass labs and tests. There is still a lot depends on the university, ie. from the level of teaching - in the vast majority it is simply none. Now, many years later, I have no regrets - it helped me find myself, find a decent job after graduation.

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alphard, 2012-02-15
@alphard

Hello Ivan.
Most recently, I was in a situation similar to you - I was lost in the choice. The situation has been resolved, and here are my tips for you:
1) If you have the opportunity to stay, stay in the part-time or part-time department. The crust is provided to you, and there is many times more time for work and self-improvement than in the daytime. Diploma - nishtyaki in the form of an opportunity to continue studying abroad. Yes, work there.
2) $500 is not so significant to leave. If you were called to Cisco and for $5000, then, of course, the university is going through the woods.
3) Freelancing is neither bad nor good. This is fine. And you can earn a lotmore than $500. However, only if you work on yourself - spend part of your salary on books on IT, read articles on the Internet, learn English, go in for sports.
You must be competitive; one of the best. Strive for it. I aspire, for example :)
But to study full-time and earn good money as a professional - I don't know such people.
And one more thing - serious freelancing will hit your daily routine very hard. Be prepared for this, and also for the fight against laziness.
Thank you for your attention

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