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pavlyk2016-03-01 22:37:55
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pavlyk, 2016-03-01 22:37:55

Retraining or Prof. How realistic is retraining?

How realistic is it, not being a student and continuing to work in the main job, to get enough knowledge and experience to retrain in any serious profession. (It means not to go as a junior to php in some kind of web studio, and not even necessarily as a programmer. Or without it in any way?).
Let me explain, the fact is that after the institute (education is not it) who studied at 1Snick (in fact, the choice was only because a quick start and salary standards are possible) and having worked for 4 years already achieved some "ceiling" and in terms of salary (in principle, not bad ) and by position, in general, of course, you can certainly still grow in RPs further, and you can still grow a lot in the horizontal plane, but in part it simply ceased to be interesting, and in part even the prospect of RP, etc. somehow not very inspiring...
Plus, I got hooked on Habr, I read everything in a row and realized that all this is very interesting to me.
I recently watched a lecture with Grigory Bakunov about new trends: artificial intelligence, bitcoins, virtual reality. It's breathtaking how interesting all this is =)))
But where to go without special education and without special knowledge .... it's not clear. (But I am ready to draw knowledge in full)
At the junior level, I studied html + css + js for myself, but I simply don’t even have financial opportunities to go junior. (receive 3+- times less than now)
Here I look in the direction of possibly the second highest or something like that. I also discovered such interesting projects as:
https://academy.yandex.ru/
But as I understand it, they are designed for students ....
Or something like that?https://cs.hse.ru/
How relevant and useful will it be?
If I get the impression that I myself don’t know what I want to do specifically, then this is partly true, but apparently without trying it you won’t know how much you like or dislike something. But definitely IT.
Who can advise some really worthwhile education or give advice on how to fully retrain, I will be very grateful!
Many thanks in advance to everyone!

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evgeniy_lm, 2016-03-01
@pavlyk

You need to start by deciding what exactly you want. The difference between html+css+js and AI is about the same as between a scooter and an intergalactic starship. The first is such a cool toy on which you can cut down money on the easy, if you're lucky, the second is fundamental science, you have to be serious about the topic to get a small piece from some kind of grant.
If you are interested in the size of the RFP, then it is where they speak English. If you already have a lot of experience in 1C, then I think it’s worth developing further in this direction, smoke the theory of ERP and CRM, learn English and you are guaranteed an interesting job with a good salary

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EPrush, 2016-03-01
@EPrush

A university is needed exclusively for a tractor, it will not give you anything else. It will definitely be necessary to fall on the RFP and start from June. If you need money and you don’t want to hack on the phap/web, then save up a pillow for a year and a half and learn something normal.

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c5c5, 2016-03-01
@c5c5

Without a drop in income, there is no way to overflow into another area. Therefore, he studies well, then change jobs with zeal, if not 3 times but 1.5-2 times. Climb up there. AI, Bitcoins are all cool, but unfortunately they don’t make money on it yet ))

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un1t, 2016-03-02
@un1t

Those. Do you have 3-5 years to study at a university, but do not have 3-6 months to work as a junior? And after the university you wonder what position they will take? In my opinion, the same June.

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Saboteur, 2016-03-03
@saboteur_kiev

"The actual question is to get at least a good IT base in these 3-5 years, which I did not get at the institute, so that I can retrain if necessary."
institutions do not provide a good IT base, often do not provide an IT base at all. They give mathematics, algorithms, English and general education.
You can not retrain if necessary immediately to the mid. Mid is June after work experience, at least a year.
Therefore, the only thing you can do is self-study, try to participate in open source projects, look for other options for practical experience.
Perhaps you still need to develop what you already know if you do not want to start the field from scratch. But without real work and development experience, you can't jump junior into something where you don't have experience.

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mofecuju, 2016-03-04
@mofecuju

Start making simple orders for your future profession.
In a year, approximately, when the professional level rises and the money flows more steadily - make a breakthrough (in this case, there will be a loss of income, even 2 times and it will straighten out in 3 months).

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mamkaololosha, 2016-03-02
@mamkaololosha

In terms of ShAD and others, “I never liked matan, but when I saw the RFP, I immediately fell in love with it, so much so that I didn’t expect it myself,” brainick can advise you .

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Roman Kravchik, 2016-03-09
@rkravchik

Frontend is better to know at the junior level, but really do server development.
Take a look at GO. Now it is a trend all over the world. There is no better language for the web yet. Server monsters in Java/.NET are definitely not for you.
You can quickly start writing simple server solutions. Perhaps this will help you in your current work.
I would not look in the direction of education, by doing this you subconsciously delay the "beginning".
Go to the toaster in the "Go" section, there in the description I threw links to start.

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pavlyk, 2016-03-04
@pavlyk

I'll clarify the question. I mentioned the junior partly later that, knowing about what vacancies are, I’m afraid to get into one where I will come as a junior and leave as a junior, they will do some routine current tasks without development in some small web studio (if we talk about the web), etc. (I myself encountered this in 1C, you can sit in one company for 2 years and sort of solve current issues, etc., but in fact without developing much, and in another on different projects for six months to pump an order of magnitude stronger), or maybe and the big ones too. Therefore, the idea came up with additional. education or something like that. The web is interesting to me, I know it poorly so far, but go and sit on the support of some online store to fix the turnover ... I will eventually come to the same place where I am now in 1C and it will quickly get bored. And I would like to get on interesting complex top projects in the future. What matters is a good perspective. I understand that choosing the same frontend will be a huge competition and now there are a huge bunch of vacancies as well as developers of a weak level but sufficient to solve the current problems of small projects, online stores, etc. but I don't want to be like that. That's why I'm trying to understand the development vector in order to get on top projects in the future. Or is it better not to choose frontend in this regard? (Frontend is interesting like the web as a whole, but I still can’t fully understand what is the share of frontend in projects, or is the backend responsible for the most part? And in which direction is it better to look then, maybe not the web at all?) That’s why I’m asking advice because not yet heavily immersed in this area. I understand that choosing the same frontend will be a huge competition and now there are a huge bunch of vacancies as well as developers of a weak level but sufficient to solve the current problems of small projects, online stores, etc. but I don't want to be like that. That's why I'm trying to understand the development vector in order to get on top projects in the future. Or is it better not to choose frontend in this regard? (Frontend is interesting like the web as a whole, but I still can’t fully understand what is the share of frontend in projects, or is the backend responsible for the most part? And in which direction is it better to look then, maybe not the web at all?) That’s why I’m asking advice because not yet heavily immersed in this area. I understand that choosing the same frontend will be a huge competition and now there are a huge bunch of vacancies as well as developers of a weak level but sufficient to solve the current problems of small projects, online stores, etc. but I don't want to be like that. That's why I'm trying to understand the development vector in order to get on top projects in the future. Or is it better not to choose frontend in this regard? (Frontend is interesting like the web as a whole, but I still can’t fully understand what is the share of frontend in projects, or is the backend responsible for the most part? And in which direction is it better to look then, maybe not the web at all?) That’s why I’m asking advice because not yet heavily immersed in this area. Or is it better not to choose frontend in this regard? (Frontend is interesting like the web as a whole, but I still can’t fully understand what is the share of frontend in projects, or is the backend responsible for the most part? And in which direction is it better to look then, maybe not the web at all?) That’s why I’m asking advice because not yet heavily immersed in this area. Or is it better not to choose frontend in this regard? (Frontend is interesting like the web as a whole, but I still can’t fully understand what is the share of frontend in projects, or is the backend responsible for the most part? And in which direction is it better to look then, maybe not the web at all?) That’s why I’m asking advice because not yet heavily immersed in this area.

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