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Real salary of a frontend/backend developer in Moscow?
The people who live in Moscow, tell me the real wages. I monitored sites like hh.ru, and on all sites, the salary on average starts from 100 tr., how much is this true figure?
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quite justified, everyone gives a hundred here, and they give more (and there are much more) and it’s not hard to find such a job,
but the offices are different:
- they demand to plow for 10
- they demand a lot, but in the end they give G to cut
- they are ready to give money and conditions and share knowledge
- we are ready to promise, but not to give
a huge market, smart developers are hard to find ... good companies or a project are similarly hard,
well, no one wants to mess around with junas :)
I registered here specifically to express my opinion a little. I agree with those who write that in Moscow this is not money. I'll explain why.
I live from birth outside the Moscow Ring Road, not far from Moscow. Almost all bread IT-work in the center of Moscow. On the outskirts of the city there are sleeping areas, there are almost no business centers, and accordingly there are few employers. Outside the Moscow Ring Road for IT - there is no work at all (there is no work at all). So, in order to get to the center of Moscow every day, you must either have a colossal supply of health, or an apartment at least near the metro. The rest will squeeze all the juice out of you, you will curse IT and gladly run away to your province to work with anyone. Those. get ready to give at least 30-35 rubles for rent in a residential area.
I'm at 100 right now. Not much for Moscow (as well as for my experience), but I found a place where I drive from my suburbs by car in an hour. Back - 30 minutes! This is just the perfect choice. Previously, many years ago, I worked in Moscow, in the center, and completely undermined my health - every day only on the road 4-5 hours a day in crowded subway cars, electric trains, minibuses. When I got a car, it became easier, but I ran into another problem - huge Moscow traffic jams, high gas mileage, car depreciation and repairs. It turns out that working in Moscow is always a compromise. It will not work just like that to come and receive 100 krubs without financial or physical costs. 100 per month for Moscow is normal money if you are a Muscovite. Not a zamkadysh, not in large numbers, but a Muscovite with his apartment,
Further. Prices, as they said here, are higher in Moscow. For all. A salary of 100 is just the minimum living wage for an adult person who has at least a little ambition (his own car, savings, health, clothes). You can't even support a family with this money. I recently visited a dentist, the price for one tooth is from 3500 to 6000 (half an hour work). Hairdressing salon - 500 rubles. A light package in Pyaterochka of tomatoes, sausages, a pack of cigarettes and cat food will cost 1,000 rubles. The glasses broke, the price of new ones is 7000 rubles! If we want our own car or a mortgage, then there is nothing to talk about with such an income.
Companies are also different. The last company I worked for was teeming with tyrant bosses who had no brains. Those. to find a job with a good salary, with good working conditions and an adequate team - you still have to try, try very hard. I had a period in my life, I was looking for a job for a long time and I know that there are a lot of companies in Moscow where vacancies are constantly open, because. there are either inadequate at the helm, or a terrible turnover.
I still advised the provincials to look for a remote location or another city.
1) In Moscow, there is a great demand for adequate specialists, so they usually pay well.
2) If you do not have an apartment in Moscow, or your wife / girlfriend / boyfriend does not work, or they do not exist, then for 100k you will either live very poorly or spend a lot of time on the road.
3) Prices for services are much higher, which will also pull money out of you.
Ps Better in HH for 80k than in Moscow for 100k.
Whatever it was, but customers always have the position that you work little and get a lot. The developer has the opposite opinion.
In general, Moscow is so different and large that it is very difficult to name something in between.
And it doesn’t matter how much you get, it matters how much you spend:
If you have ideal working conditions, a white salary, vacations, sick days and the like, as well as your own living space and 20 minutes to work by metro - THIS IS ONE.
But if the employer put a bolt on social norms and you go on vacation at your own expense once every 5 years and go to work for 2 hours in traffic jams and rent a house - IT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
The information is 100% true. With Moscow prices for housing and services, this is not such a big salary.
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