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Maxim2019-09-11 19:10:13
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Maxim, 2019-09-11 19:10:13

Ready to work at a rate of 0 per hour. Where to find such a "job"?

About myself:

- 5 лет работы в качестве фрилансера (фронт-енд, e-commerce). Ничего не имею против e-commerce и "магазинчиков", но от того уровня проектов и технологий на которых это всё пишется меня уже просто тошнит, хотя заказчикам параллельно, но сам я чувствую, что деградирую. Например: довольно часто попадаю в команды, где народ не хочет юзать гит и agile технологии и упорно убеждает заказчика/босса, что ему это тоже не нужно и даже вредно (хотя e-commerce проекты и команды где это всё использовалось мной - на порядок эффективнее расходуют трудозатраты своих боссов/клиентов).
- Основные языки: html, css, javascript (выше среднего), php (базовый уровень + понимание как всё крутится на бэкенде и как работают базы, также писал пару простеньких проектов на Symfony 2.8)
- Просмотрел технострим mail.ru по веб-разработке на django, правда он за 2016 год, но узнал много нового.
- Есть 4 часа свободного времени в будни, в течение которого я могу делать какие-то задачи на python/django/flask в целях самообучения и экономии ваших трудозатрат (конечно это будет интересно лишь тем, у кого не горят сроки).

Despite considerable experience in web development - specifically on the python / django stack, I still have only a theory, and a basic one. My goal is to learn python. it's a general purpose language, it's more thoughtful and concise (compare with php/js) and now it's an uptrend (ML and all that), and it also has an awesome Django framework - it's just a super thing as I understand it, especially when compared with some symphony, which categorically did not go to me. I'm too lazy to write a pet-project and I want to immediately take part in real projects where there are other, more experienced developers, because. I am sure that this way my progress will be an order of magnitude faster than when reading manuals, watching video courses and creating my own code without any critical review from the outside (I have nothing against
Where can you find a team that would benefit from accepting such a "specialist"? In principle, I know roughly where to dig - spam vacancies, pass interviews and take test tasks where it is obvious that professionals will check them and give some kind of feedback upon completion. But I want to try to find a faster and better option, because. there are a lot of hrs and developers on the toaster.
I posted a similar text on freelance exchanges, but for some reason none of the moderators liked it. All hope for this resource, because. more than once, reading the questions and answers, I saw how people found workers / work of just this kind here.

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jamtuson, 2019-09-11
@webmaxer

You are not working 0 an hour, but you are working at a minus company, since your code needs to be checked, trained, given tasks and this is all the time of a more experienced specialist who could spend it on doing his job for which he is paid.
Make a portfolio and go to a company not at 0 per hour, but at the average market for an intern/juniora

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Sergey Nizhny Novgorod, 2019-09-12
@Terras

1) What prevents you from launching a real Django project besides theory? At one time, after self-studying Python, I assembled a Django web portal in 4 months and hosted it (with an admin panel, forms, complex queries, a front and other delights). Yes, of course, at the interviews they told me that my portal was made "not very" and so on, but they already offered junior positions for 40-45k.
2) 99.9% of the offices at the stage of considering the vacancy will turn you over, with the wording "some kind of degenerate who is ready to work for 0. Fuck, he is needed, he will turn out to be some kind of sick head."
And if more specifically. When a person is paid money, the office understands that the person will try, the person is afraid of losing his job, money, and so on. And when a person works for 0, he can conditionally drop the project base, collect things and go into the distance (after all, he is not paid anything here, he is not afraid of losing anything, which means he can create any game).
3) i.e. in any case, you need to look for a junior position for some more or less adequate money.

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Andrew, 2019-09-19
@iCoderXXI

If you are too lazy to write pet, then you will also be too lazy to work for 0, do not deceive yourself. If you want and love to code, then instead of coming up with rotten excuses, you will code. In any case, for any vacancy, they will ask about past experience, they will ask you to show the code on a given stack, so don’t suffer from garbage, go and drink a couple of pets, and then go for an adequate rate of work for skills. If the experience on the web is already rich, then you will quickly upgrade your skills and reach a normal rate. But such garbage is not good to suffer. :)

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Skillhunter, 2019-09-12
@Skillhunter

Our project is about self-education, you might think, maybe you can help us, and we can help you.

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Alibaba2018, 2019-09-12
@Alibaba2018

Tell me, why do you need Django at all, if you are already a 'special' in JS?
Wouldn't it be better / easier / more promising for you to just learn React / Node.js / all sorts of Angular / and other Vue, especially since everything seems to be done much more advanced there, and there is a lot of work?

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