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Vitaly Sherstobitov2021-02-02 11:11:45
IT education
Vitaly Sherstobitov, 2021-02-02 11:11:45

Is it possible to sue money for college education if it has a bad arr program?

I am in my third year of college in the direction of "applied informatics (by industry)" for 60,000 rubles a year. For three years of study, we learned a little Pascal, Delphi. Now there are no more language studies. But they add useless items like philosophy, economics, obzh, management, "maintaining, designing and working with documents" (business documents, not just in Word). Pascal and Delphi teachers themselves say that there are no teachers and the college simply opened this specialty, but was not ready, and they were forced to learn, although they had a slightly different specialty and now they, one might say, study with us. The college is public, but at the same time there is the word "pedagogical" in the name. There is no talk of practice in organizations at all, only once they said casually that they would send me to school for practice. So here it is

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Saboteur, 2021-02-02
@saboteur_kiev

For three years of study, we learned a little Pascal, Delphi.

EPRST!
Open the documentation and learn for yourself.
NO college will teach you if you can’t master it yourself in three years and wait to be taught.
In three years from scratch, you can write a good project, just sitting in the evenings and poking around in the documentation and Google.
And to sue - the college does not graduate programmers, and in general, no state college graduates junior programmers. The state program is not even enough for interns.
Including because in the state. institutions work for the state salary. If they knew how to write software, they would work at a normal salary.
But in college you get a GENERAL education. Just these are all - economics, philosophy. I'm sure there's not much there either, but that's the horizon.
Suing is stupid. A state college is required to be accredited, for which it must comply with the program of the Ministry of Education. They don't choose what to teach them. Specialization and faculties are a small piece in addition to the main program.
Go to the institute for a tower and work.
But IT and programming is CAM.

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dmshar, 2021-02-02
@dmshar

I don't see any connection between your choice of this particular college and the future of Russian education.
If you don't like college, don't pay him money, he'll die on his own. This is where the "correction" is needed. By the way, if the college is "pedagogical", then no one promised you that they would make a professional programmer out of you. You were promised that you would be able to teach computer science to children of primary school age.

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Vasily Bannikov, 2021-02-02
@vabka

I am in my third year of college ... for 60,000 rubles a year

He himself went to college on a budget, but dropped out just in his third year. I can’t imagine a person who in their right mind would also pay for this.
So, is this normal or can I file a class action lawsuit somewhere and fix this?

This not normal.
In theory, you can sue in several ways:
1. The educational program does not meet the standard. (look at the classifier, what is required from your specialty)
2. Unfair advertising. If you were promised cool specialists and an up-to-date educational program, but in the end it turned out.
Try contacting a lawyer. It seems to me that it will be difficult to return the money.

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AntHTML, 2021-02-02
@anthtml

And who drove it into your head that college and university are about programming, especially "applied computer science (by industry)"?
I personally went through both:
College and university are about Education, they provide a base for understanding "what works and how" and set a vector in which you need to think and understand in which direction to develop further and understand in general how everything in this world works and how it should be.
And if you want to purely "code like a monkey" without really understanding what, how and why and how to properly draw up the same business documentation, then you are welcome to geekbrains and similar courses, well, or to all sorts of franchise schools.

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Griboks, 2021-02-02
@Griboks

You would still be suing the Ministry of Defense for slavery)) Loh - he is a sucker in Africa too, just draw the right conclusions from your sad life experience.

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BasiC2k, 2021-02-02
@BasiC2k

1. See the contract for training, what obligations did the educational institution take in exchange for your money;
2. Look at the educational program in your specialty - does it correspond to the actual training.
Only if there are inconsistencies on these two points, you can file a lawsuit and sue something (proving you are right).
Everything else is your Wishlist and expectations, which "can't be sewn into the case."

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