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Niko Frost2015-09-01 10:24:31
Programming
Niko Frost, 2015-09-01 10:24:31

Is it possible to start working as a programmer at the age of 18?

Now I am 18 years old. I want to start working.
Zanu: HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, MySql. From frameworks: Bootstrap and jQuery.
I know JavaScript and PHP, but I have little experience there. There are small projects. There is a general portfolio (For HTML+CSS+JS, HTML+CSS+JS+PHP+MySql).
- How to behave in an interview?
- What should I say?
- What is the minimum wage?
- What to write in CV?

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Oleg Shevelev, 2015-09-01
@Frosty88

To begin with, you will have to try to find the answers to these questions on your own. Otherwise, why do you need a normal company if you need to do everything yourself? Learn to be an independent, decision maker. In addition, you described that you already have experience. Try to apply it, create something.
If you want to practice, try to sell me or someone else one of your competencies, a technological solution. Regardless of whether you succeed or not, the knowledge and the conclusions that can be drawn from the process are very useful.

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Neonoviiwolf, 2015-09-01
@Neonoviiwolf

A friend of mine, after n years of work on repairing a printer, came to an office where a java programmer was required, said that he didn’t know shit, he had read a couple of books on java, but he was ready to work hard. The answer was that "thank you for not fooling your head, come next week, we'll find you a mentor, there will be a minimum salary (something around 17k), we'll see what happens." A friend of mine has been working there for over a year and is very happy. So not every employer will take it, but you can find a job, you should count on a normal salary at least a year later, and after a test 20-30k without experience - norms

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xSkyFoXx, 2015-09-01
@xSkyFoXx

If your basic motivation is to gain experience and you are self-motivated enough to develop something in your spare time, it is better to work for 1-2 years for pleasure and experience. Help your parents or friends to emigrate their business online, write a clone of something you like, try to be useful to some open source projects.
If your motivation is money (everything happens in life), then I have bad news for you. It is best in such cases to go as a waiter, handyman, builder. You will earn much more from the start. But, as we all perfectly understand, the future prospects, taking into account the choice of IT, are becoming extremely vague.
My personal experience:
1-2 course - own laboratory and assignments for other students "for food"
3-4 - other people's course projects and small freelance
5 - part time
6 - full time

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Dmitry Kovalsky, 2015-09-01
@dmitryKovalskiy

Google, dig HH for the keywords "PHP programmer" with no experience or 1-3 years. Write in CV as it is, the main thing is not to lie frankly.

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Yuri Dzhur, 2015-09-01
@qrasik

How to behave in an interview?

Calmly, without unnecessary movements. Parasitic words and extra gestures will be in your minus.
What will they ask. :-) So, are you a junior? What is there to ask? Well, unless they check your adequacy.
Now, HZ. Moreover, the RFP varies across the country. For NSO 20, this is probably the limit. And in MSC it is already 50.
Write the truth. :-) More precisely, it is reasonable to lie.
Understand that at first your resumes are looked at and selected by completely third-party people who are frankly "out of touch". they look for keywords.
And yes, psychologists are evil. Think over the line of behavior and image in advance, and not in a hurry. Why did I draw attention to this? Because there are about a thousand real psychologists in the Russian Federation, and the rest can fill up your person based on anything.

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Eugene, 2015-09-01
@e-antonov

if you really know how to do something (we are not talking about the fact that you are the god of all of the above), then of course it is possible.
just create a resume on xx, linkedin, mycircle, superjob, apply for vacancies, go to interviews and everything will be fine.
do not listen to those who say that at the age of 18 they will not be taken because they are young. take, stopudovo take.

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thepry, 2015-09-01
@thepry

- What should I say?
That you want to work as an intern/junir.
The truth. You don't know much, but you really want to learn. It is not necessary to list all the technologies that you have encountered in your life: “windows, excel, word, php, mysql, sqlite, postgres”. Write that you studied PHP and want to work.
Well, the process should be something like this: you open a list of vacancies and follow it. If the requirements for the vacancy are not very high and you need a not very experienced dude, you write. If there are more requirements, then you write, asking if they need interns, at the same time tell what you have already studied, give a link to the github, etc.
Upgrade your soft skills - quick wit, punctuality, independence, etc.

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Alexander Sinitsyn, 2015-09-01
@a_u_sinitsin

Get, while young, a higher education, or at least not a complete higher education. And do not believe those who say that no one needs it, because. usually so say those who have it and not even one.

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Puma Thailand, 2015-09-01
@opium

1 brazenly
2 what you know, that is, to tell your knowledge
3 to a greater extent
4 your experience

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Anton, 2015-09-01
@SPAHI4

I got a job supporting landings at the age of 18 (a year ago), now in an adjacent company I make websites myself (not landings), I support ios applications. S/n 30k. So everything is possible)

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Daniil Kolesnichenko, 2015-09-01
@KolesnichenkoDS

If you participated in the development of the same JQuery or Bootstrap, I think it would make a very good impression on a potential employer. Well, in general, open source is a good way to gain experience and decorate your resume.

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Oleg Gamega, 2015-09-01
@gadfi

I’m talking with a guy, he recently turned 17, I often answer questions on various resources and at one time I went to the group a typical programmer on VK, they wrote off there
Yes, he still needs to tighten up the structures and algorithms ... and the database too, although better than half of the graduates (hello generation that en masse goes to universities)
but not long ago he took the first order for $ 200 ─ it’s nice for me))

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Reistlin, 2015-09-01
@iznaur

I got my first job at the age of 15 Junior'om (albeit remotely, but the employer knew about the age). Now I'm just 18). So everything is possible. Especially if you live in a city with developed IT. But is it worth looking for a job at 18? I would advise getting a higher education (not for the sake of a diploma, but for the sake of fundamental knowledge)

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sitev_ru, 2015-09-01
@sitev_ru

At the age of 18, I would go to work in freelance. There is a desire - you work, if not - you rest ... Well, you gain experience ...

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Arris, 2015-09-01
@Arris

First you need to learn Russian. And then start looking for a job.

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asd111, 2015-09-01
@asd111

Age is not important, the main thing is your skills.
Now you can easily look for a job, and you will learn the php framework (symfony for example) at work along the way. Better not get a job in a web studio - unofficial salary, sites on Bitrix, etc.
Get a job where the official salary and registration for labor.
Employers need you. Gather a list of companies you would like to work for, call and go for interviews. You can call where they are looking for experienced people for 100 thousand rubles. - at least you will find out what their requirements are, and if you agree, they can take it, though for a small salary to begin with.
You will be surprised how much PHP programmers are needed.

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Artur Nurullin, 2015-09-03
@Splo1ter

Started at 19 =)

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Alexander Zelenin, 2015-09-10
@Zav

Hello.
I started at 12 . As already answered - write what you want.
I came to the company, said that I can and showed the work. For a very long time I didn’t have a resume at all, and nothing, it’s normal. These are all conventions.

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